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W dniu 11.12.2024 o 21:56, Python pisze:
> Le 11/12/2024 à 21:29, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>> W dniu 11.12.2024 o 20:17, Python pisze:
>>> Le 11/12/2024 à 08:17, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>>>> W dniu 10.12.2024 o 20:45, Python pisze:
>>>>> Le 10/12/2024 à 20:20, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> How do you practically check your "t = t'" equations for clocks 
>>>>>>> standing next to each other?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I read the numbers they display and I compare them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Then for distant mutually at rest clocks with no
>>>>>>> gravity involved?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sad. You don't. You can't. We can.
>>>>
>>>> No you can't either. Sorry, There is a small technical detail: those
>>>> "distant clocks" are not moving wrt each
>>>> other.
>>>> How do you ensure that? By assuming the
>>>> condition a priori;and you can do it because
>>>> you're only applying your procedure
>>>> in your gedanken. Am I incorrect ?
>>>
>>> You are. I put two clocks at the extremity of a rod.
>>
>> Yeah, sure - "distant" clocks  at the
>> extremity of the rod - very practical
>> indeed, isn't it?
>>
>>
>>   This is quite
>>> reasonable to assume they are at rest wrt to each other, isn't it?
>>
>> No. Take 2 bodies - one orbitting the other.
>> Join them with a rod, do you secure their relative
>> immobility ? Yeah, you imagined and insisted
>> Gdańsk and Warsaw aren't moving wrt each other. You're
>> such an idiot.
> 
> What is the relative speed between Gdansk and Warsaw then?

Would have to calculate.
Another example. Let's take a rod, 2 clocks at each
end, it is rotating around its center. Is synchronizing
the clocks with the Holiest Procedure valid here? Does
the rod secure the clocks to be in rest wrt each
other, poor stinker?



>>>> You're only believing [into] a great
>>>> practical procedure - because your is pumping you with gedanken fairy
>>>> tales where it works fine.
>>>
>>> Nope. If such a procedure would fail it could be checked.
>>
>> How could it fail if you  have never used it.
>>
>>
>>> No magic, and if gravity could not be ignored in a given practical setup 
>>
>> So, where, precisely, was your [method]
>> applied. In practice.
> 
> I asked for yours

And I asked where, precisely, was your idiocy
applied. In practice.
No answer? Of course, poor stinker.