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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 20:39:35 +0100
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Subject: Re: Newton: Photon falling from h meters increase its energy.
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W dniu 12.01.2025 o 19:42, Paul B. Andersen pisze:
> Den 12.01.2025 02:31, skrev rhertz:
>> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 20:45:08 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>
>>> rhertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 18:43:41 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> W dniu 11.01.2025 o 19:10, rhertz pisze:
>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 17:25:42 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> W dniu 11.01.2025 o 18:16, rhertz pisze:
>>>>>>>> Under Newton, a photon has gravitational mass m, for which it's 
>>>>>>>> affected
>>>>>>>> by gravity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Under which Newton? Do you mean Newton's
>>>>>>> optics? It was abandoned in XVIIIth century.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Von Soldner's Newton (since 1801)
>>>>>
>>>>> Newton's optics was abandoned, if not in XVIIIth
>>>>> century than not very long after 1801.
>>>>
>>>> And recovered by Einstein in 1911, with a paper WHERE HE MAKE
>>>> AFFIRMATIONS about gravitational mass of energy.
>>>>
>>>> Ask yourself WHY 1960 Pound-Rebka paper had the title "Apparent weight
>>>> of photons" and later, before his death, Pound wrote his memoirs
>>>> "Weighting photons".
>>>
>>> All entirely correct,
>>> -in the Newtonian approximation to general relativity-.
>>>
>>> As yet we have not yet encountered circumstances in which
>>> the Newtonian approximation is not good enough
>>> to calculate the relativistic red shift,
>>>
>>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>> Then you accept what Einstein affirmed in his 1911 paper: "Energy has
>> gravitational mass".
>>
>> So much gobbledygook in such old paper just to conceal that he was using
>> Planck to calculate a shift of gh/c^2 and also m=E/c^2.
>>
>> And 50 years later you had Pound embarrassing himself by using an
>> eye-catcher title on his paper "Does photons have mass?", just to forget
>> to expand that title within his 1960 paper! Rebka was only his slave, a
>> graduate student who depended on Pound to get his PhD in 1961.
>>
>> Shame, scam, crooks, hoax, fraud, etc. This is what relativism is full
>> of.
> 
> Photons have no rest mass.
> 
> According to Newton, the acceleration of a particle with mass m is:

And as photons have no mass - according to Newton
you can't say anything about them. Your "falsification"
is a sorry lie, as usual.