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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 20:47:55 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Newton: Photon falling from h meters increase its energy. Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <4af374770bb67b6951ef19c75b35fbad@www.novabbs.com> <4404fd8d88a2eacd658d92efeef4d6c2@www.novabbs.com> <vm3ncs$20493$1@dont-email.me> <7db98cab57f6050f8daf2f88b9bfdcdb@www.novabbs.com> <vm6lel$2jd9o$1@dont-email.me> <4568ec448c26221aea0c57a6bfc7b29b@www.novabbs.com> <vm8bd2$2v29k$1@dont-email.me> <5705554ddaf14095a8c1720c33efc599@www.novabbs.com> <vmblgh$3kl6v$1@dont-email.me> <181b42b814b94f1d$84581$1308629$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <BH4xs8rjWMdN15I1rhXjw7nMXx4@jntp> Content-Language: pl From: Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <BH4xs8rjWMdN15I1rhXjw7nMXx4@jntp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 50 Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!feed.abavia.com!abe007.abavia.com!abe003.abavia.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 19:47:56 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 2667 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <181b440696ba4c68$90954$1329657$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 3051 W dniu 16.01.2025 o 20:25, Python pisze: > Le 16/01/2025 à 20:23, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >> W dniu 16.01.2025 o 20:11, Paul.B.Andersen pisze: >>> Den 15.01.2025 18:36, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen: >>>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:00:31 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I ask you again: >>>>> Why do you not understand that Einstein and many other physicists >>>>> have shown that it is a fact that GR predicts Θ = 4GM/Δ⋅c² ? >>>>> >>>>> Your opinion of GR is irrelevant. >>>>> >>>>> GR's prediction for the gravitational deflection >>>>> is confirmed by a number of experiments: >>>>> >>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf >>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini.pdf >>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/Shapiro_2004.pdf >>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/Fomalont.pdf >>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini_2.pdf >>>>> >>>>> You know, experimental evidence _is_ the reality. >>>>> Your opinion is fantasy. >>> >>>> If the derivation is wrong, it doesn't predict. You didn't understand >>>> what Poor said. Poor has directly addressed the "4" in your equation. >>> >>> Understand this: >>> The equation Θ = 4GM/Δ⋅c² is correct >> >> A pity it's not [GR] equation for >> light deflection. > > Really? So what is it? A formula valid in a model joining good, old Euclidean geometry with some minor schemas of The Shit. Poincare has been explaining - you can reject EG, but it's stupid and will serve you ill. So with all of those ideological screams of its alleged incompability with the reality - your bunch of idiots is still applying it everywhere and pretending it is not.