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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 07:00:19 +0100
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Subject: Re: Newton: Photon falling from h meters increase its energy.
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W dniu 16.01.2025 o 20:56, Python pisze:
> Le 16/01/2025 à 20:47, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>> W dniu 16.01.2025 o 20:25, Python pisze:
>>> Le 16/01/2025 à 20:23, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>>>> W dniu 16.01.2025 o 20:11, Paul.B.Andersen pisze:
>>>>> Den 15.01.2025 18:36, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:00:31 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I ask you again:
>>>>>>> Why do you not understand that Einstein and many other physicists
>>>>>>> have shown that it is a fact that GR predicts Θ = 4GM/Δ⋅c² ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your opinion of GR is irrelevant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GR's prediction for the gravitational deflection
>>>>>>> is confirmed by a number of experiments:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf
>>>>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini.pdf
>>>>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/Shapiro_2004.pdf
>>>>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/Fomalont.pdf
>>>>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini_2.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know, experimental evidence _is_ the reality.
>>>>>>> Your opinion is fantasy.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If the derivation is wrong, it doesn't predict. You didn't understand
>>>>>> what Poor said. Poor has directly addressed the "4" in your equation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Understand this:
>>>>> The equation Θ = 4GM/Δ⋅c² is correct
>>>>
>>>> A pity it's not [GR] equation for
>>>> light deflection.
>>>
>>> Really? So what is it?
>>
>> A formula valid in a model joining
>> good, old Euclidean geometry with
>> some minor schemas of The Shit.
>>
>> Poincare has been explaining - you
>> can reject EG, but it's stupid and
>> will serve you ill. So with all
>> of those ideological screams  of its
>> alleged incompability with the
>> reality - your bunch of idiots is
>> still applying it  everywhere and
>> pretending it is not.
> 
> I didn't ask for incoherent babble. I asked for a formula.

And I answerred about the formula.
It's not my fault that Poincare is
too much for your birdy brain.