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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 07:00:19 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Newton: Photon falling from h meters increase its energy. Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <4af374770bb67b6951ef19c75b35fbad@www.novabbs.com> <7db98cab57f6050f8daf2f88b9bfdcdb@www.novabbs.com> <vm6lel$2jd9o$1@dont-email.me> <4568ec448c26221aea0c57a6bfc7b29b@www.novabbs.com> <vm8bd2$2v29k$1@dont-email.me> <5705554ddaf14095a8c1720c33efc599@www.novabbs.com> <vmblgh$3kl6v$1@dont-email.me> <181b42b814b94f1d$84581$1308629$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <BH4xs8rjWMdN15I1rhXjw7nMXx4@jntp> <181b440696ba4c68$90954$1329657$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <HJj0zuuE8BtyPn443u4Llspmu98@jntp> Content-Language: pl From: Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <HJj0zuuE8BtyPn443u4Llspmu98@jntp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 57 Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeder1.feed.ams11.usenet.farm!feed.usenet.farm!feed.abavia.com!abe007.abavia.com!abe003.abavia.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 06:00:18 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 3056 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <181b65715f475c6e$1$1407297$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 3505 W dniu 16.01.2025 o 20:56, Python pisze: > Le 16/01/2025 à 20:47, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >> W dniu 16.01.2025 o 20:25, Python pisze: >>> Le 16/01/2025 à 20:23, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >>>> W dniu 16.01.2025 o 20:11, Paul.B.Andersen pisze: >>>>> Den 15.01.2025 18:36, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen: >>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:00:31 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I ask you again: >>>>>>> Why do you not understand that Einstein and many other physicists >>>>>>> have shown that it is a fact that GR predicts Θ = 4GM/Δ⋅c² ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your opinion of GR is irrelevant. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> GR's prediction for the gravitational deflection >>>>>>> is confirmed by a number of experiments: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf >>>>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini.pdf >>>>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/Shapiro_2004.pdf >>>>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/Fomalont.pdf >>>>>>> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini_2.pdf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You know, experimental evidence _is_ the reality. >>>>>>> Your opinion is fantasy. >>>>> >>>>>> If the derivation is wrong, it doesn't predict. You didn't understand >>>>>> what Poor said. Poor has directly addressed the "4" in your equation. >>>>> >>>>> Understand this: >>>>> The equation Θ = 4GM/Δ⋅c² is correct >>>> >>>> A pity it's not [GR] equation for >>>> light deflection. >>> >>> Really? So what is it? >> >> A formula valid in a model joining >> good, old Euclidean geometry with >> some minor schemas of The Shit. >> >> Poincare has been explaining - you >> can reject EG, but it's stupid and >> will serve you ill. So with all >> of those ideological screams of its >> alleged incompability with the >> reality - your bunch of idiots is >> still applying it everywhere and >> pretending it is not. > > I didn't ask for incoherent babble. I asked for a formula. And I answerred about the formula. It's not my fault that Poincare is too much for your birdy brain.