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W dniu 25.01.2025 o 23:10, Python pisze:
> Le 25/01/2025 à 22:50, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>> W dniu 25.01.2025 o 22:11, Python pisze:
>>> Le 25/01/2025 à 22:05, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a 
>>> écrit :
>>>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 0:39:40 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/24/2025 2:11 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 22:24:04 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/23/2025 2:20 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 21:47:25 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:05:49 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass
>>>>>>>>>>> baubles.
>>>>>>>>>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic
>>>>>>>>>>> attain
>>>>>>>>>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for 
>>>>>>>>>>> fortunes? The
>>>>>>>>>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error
>>>>>>>>>>> that a
>>>>>>>>>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities
>>>>>>>>>>> convincing
>>>>>>>>>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent,
>>>>>>>>>>> such as
>>>>>>>>>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and
>>>>>>>>>>> thoughtlessly
>>>>>>>>>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very 
>>>>>>>>>>> pathetic,
>>>>>>>>>>> slavish, and avoidable.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by 
>>>>>>>>>> the ...'textbooks
>>>>>>>>>> monopoly'.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The cabal decides what they want you to think.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How many planets are there? Who decides the answer for you? A 
>>>>>>>>>> cabal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The really amusing thing is that people are intellectual 
>>>>>>>>> weaklings who
>>>>>>>>> couldn't reason themselves out of a paper bag, or they wouldn't 
>>>>>>>>> accept
>>>>>>>>> curved space for a second.
>>>>>>>> Did you ever acknowledge my point that Einstein should have 
>>>>>>>> understood
>>>>>>>> that parallel lines would have to meet for space to curve? Isn't it
>>>>>>>> stupid as hell not to recognize that? If he had been an honest and
>>>>>>>> forthright person, he would have said we have to presume that 
>>>>>>>> parallel
>>>>>>>> lines meet to claim space is curved, and this is our derivation 
>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>> doubling of the Newtonian deflection. Then, every reasonable person
>>>>>>>> would have balked at such an irrational assumption and 
>>>>>>>> recognized him as
>>>>>>>> a foolish fellow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Think of drawing two horizontal lines on a spheres surface. They 
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> never intersect.
>>>>>> You presume space can be treated as a surface. That is a petitio
>>>>>> principii. You presume it's curved to conclude it's curved. It's 
>>>>>> not a
>>>>>> surface and its not curved.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it was curved a bit, then I can see how two parallel lines might
>>>>> intersect at a point at infinity, so to speak, in a strange sense. 
>>>>> It's
>>>>> strange to me. When I plot field individual lines in one of my
>>>>> experimental fields, they never intersect even though they twist and
>>>>> turn through the field...
>>>> Fields can curve while space cannot.
>>>
>>> "Laurence", what is your level of education in maths? Just asking.
>>
>>
>> But whatever you say - Poincare had enough wit
>> to understand how idiotic rejecting Euclid
>> would be, and he has written it clearly
>> enough for anyone able to read (even if not
>> clearly enough for you)
> 
> Still confused Woz? 

No, Pyt.


> Nobody is "rejecting Euclid" 

A lie. Of course.

BTW, so, how do you recognize a space geodesic?
Still no answer, poor stinker? For sure,
spitting and slandering the enemies of your
church is much easier than answerring their
questions, isn't it?