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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:45:21 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Challenge for Paul; Probe that with Mercury ds^2>0 and the solution is spacelike Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <dff62668d45cf79dded21ff70c788668@www.novabbs.com> <bSU98M6KIUBzLsrpIgbePkDLQD8@jntp> <9b43c59dd3e9a654aaa9c23ee5b0b95e@www.novabbs.com> <9c1871f8c397da587d595bc8e844b0b5@www.novabbs.com> <cC6tP.1638$jgOa.118@fx17.ams4> <67b5c653$0$11456$426a74cc@news.free.fr> Content-Language: pl From: Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <67b5c653$0$11456$426a74cc@news.free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 25 Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeder1.feed.ams11.usenet.farm!feed.usenet.farm!feed.abavia.com!abe007.abavia.com!abe003.abavia.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 12:45:21 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 1779 X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com Message-Id: <18259cb293e21326$1864$1481196$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 2252 W dniu 19.02.2025 o 12:53, J. J. Lodder pisze: > Paul B. Andersen <relativity@paulba.no> wrote: > >> Den 13.02.2025 18:26, skrev rhertz: >>> Can you derive, for GPS satellites, the alleged shift in frequency: >>> >>> ?f/f ≈ GM/c? [1/r_E ? 1/(r_E + h)]? GM/[2 c? (r_E + h)] >> >> https://paulba.no/pdf/Clock_rate.pdf > > If you ever are in the mood, you could add a section > on non-circular GPS orbits. > (they all are a little, no point in wasting precious fuel in keeping > orbits exactly circular) > > When the orbit is elliptical the clock correction varies over the orbit. > Only the average is corrected for in the constant clock offset. > Relativistic corrections for this have to be applied in the receivers. A lie, of course - there are no relativistic corrections, according to your insane guru the clocks should be left alone and desynchronize. Of course, GPS wouldn't work, but what a beautiful symmetry we would have instead.