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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 10:39:48 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Muon paradox Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <d74079263e98ec581c4ccbdab5c5fa65@www.novabbs.com> <5fd51fea02c903ebf93a2ef52d94ca20@www.novabbs.com> <vshbig$3ojsg$1@dont-email.me> <bd85b5fefec8ef329d396c87d6acf4f7@www.novabbs.com> <vsj0nm$1bsmo$3@dont-email.me> <c92c755aaef3f66da2aeeef99ec1b159@www.novabbs.com> <vslfvi$52m4$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: pl From: Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <vslfvi$52m4$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 56 Path: ...!news.tomockey.net!news.samoylyk.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeder1.feed.ams11.usenet.farm!feed.usenet.farm!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2025 08:39:48 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 2463 X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com Message-Id: <1832c240a2e08464$1447572$1481196$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 2865 W dniu 03.04.2025 o 10:18, Paul.B.Andersen pisze: > Den 02.04.2025 19:46, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen: >> On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 9:45:51 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>> >>> The measured mean lifetime of a stationary muon is 2.2 μs >>> The measured mean lifetime of a muon moving at 0.999668⋅c is 85.36 μs. >>> >>> This is time dilation. >>> >>> It is a measured FACT. >>> >>> Do you claim otherwise? > >> Paul, all you can do is recite the math like a zombie. > > A very interesting statement. > When you see math, you assume it must be written by a zombie > since you don't understand it. > > The zombie is the one who doesn't understand the math. > >> The whole point >> of this thread was to see if any relativist could explain the cause of >> time dilation when the speed is the same. No one has even tried because >> they can't. > > This statement shows that you don't know what "time dilation" is, > so I am telling you: > > The measured mean lifetime of a stationary muon is 2.2 μs There is no even such thing. > The measured mean lifetime of a muon moving at 0.999668⋅c is 85.36 μs. > > These are measured facts! > > This is time dilation. > ----------------------- No this is not. > > If you claim otherwise, then you better give another > explanation of why the mean lifetime of a muon can be measured > to have two different values when it is measured in two different > frames of reference. There are no different frames of reference, both measurement are made in Earth frame. Assuming, of course, you're not lying about them being made too. As for another explaination - mrucving of mimaykas may be the cause.