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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2025 07:03:55 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Muon paradox Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <d74079263e98ec581c4ccbdab5c5fa65@www.novabbs.com> <vsh92t$3mltr$1@dont-email.me> <d6b9dd687bfe1c27ced89d9c3657a2f5@www.novabbs.com> <vsj1ic$1bsmo$4@dont-email.me> <bde61d4704e1b6144732c8f6cf68e021@www.novabbs.com> <vslh71$52m4$3@dont-email.me> <1f71496841d33e33c17081dab4e92631@www.novabbs.com> <vsokjd$3felk$1@dont-email.me> <0ffd2692c0b472758475dd0a8ba91df1@www.novabbs.com> <vsqt2b$1s7ad$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: pl From: Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <vsqt2b$1s7ad$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 68 Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeder2.feed.ams11.usenet.farm!feed.usenet.farm!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2025 05:03:54 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 3174 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <1833a23645ab8fad$211576$1498207$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> W dniu 05.04.2025 o 11:32, Paul.B.Andersen pisze: > Den 04.04.2025 23:15, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen: >> On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 12:55:38 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >>> >>> A muon has a mean lifetime = 2.2 μs in its rest frame. >>> The same muon, at the same time, has a mean lifetime 85.36 μs >>> in the Earth-frame. >>> >>> Time dilation is the phenomenon that the measured time >>> between two events on an object's world-line depend >>> on the frame of reference in which it is measured. >>> >>> The 2.2 μs and 85.36 μs are two different times between >>> the same two events on the same muon. >>> The difference is that the two times are measured in two >>> different frames of reference. >>> > >> The muons move ten times further down in Earth's atmosphere than they >> are expected to from measurements in the laboratory of their lifetimes >> and speeds. This is not a matter of perspective or reference frames. > > The "time dilation" is exactly as expected and predicted by SR. > >> >> You have proven unable to even attempt to explain the cause of the time >> dilation of the muons coming from high in Earth's atmosphere according >> to relativity. > > Didn't you read the above? > > So read it now: > > A muon has a mean lifetime = 2.2 μs in its rest frame. > The same muon, at the same time, has a mean lifetime 85.36 μs > in the Earth-frame. > > Time dilation is the phenomenon that the measured time > between two events on an object's world-line depend > on the frame of reference in which it is measured. > > The 2.2 μs and 85.36 μs are two different times between > the same two events on the same muon. > The difference is that the two times are measured in two > different frames of reference. > > >> >> Time dilation is not a phenomenon. > > Call it whatever you want. > > "Time dilation" as predicted by SR is _proven_ to exist. In the meantime in the real world, however, forbidden by your absurd religion improper clocks keep measuring improper t'=t in improper seconds. > The muon has but one life. It is this one life that > is 2.2 μs when measured in the rest frame of the muon, A lie, of course, no such measurement has ever been made and a muon doesn't even have a rest frame.