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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 21:11:05 +0200
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Subject: Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein
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On 4/21/2025 9:03 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 4/21/25 1:25 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>> On 4/21/2025 8:05 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> On 4/21/25 1:29 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>>>> On 4/20/2025 9:12 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  >> Werner Heisenberg said, "We have to remember that what we 
>>>> observe is not
>>>>  >> nature in itself but nature exposed to our method of questioning."
>>>>
>>>> What we observe - is a claim. It's
>>>> a text information. It submits our
>>>> rules of text processing, nature
>>>> "in itself"  has nothing to do with
>>>> it and never had.
>>>> And, yes - a theory teaches us how
>>>> our observation should look like.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Text information" is nature in itself, Bozo.
>>
>>
>> No it is not. Without a trained by a culture
>> human mind able to interprete it it's either
>> a stream of meaningless sounds or a stream
>> of meaningless characters, Bozo.
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> "a stream of meaningless sounds" is nature in itself, Bozo.

But a text isn't that.