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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 21:11:05 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math References: <68049149.3982@ix.netcom.com> <1rb3qin.q8hf354phnshN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <vu3gvb$9leb$2@solani.org> <1838419b56cd2c18$1565359$1494137$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <vu61e2$asln$3@solani.org> <183868af60f186ae$1582025$1488192$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <vu64qk$asln$7@solani.org> Content-Language: en-US From: =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= <mlwozniak@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <vu64qk$asln$7@solani.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 40 Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder1.feed.ams11.usenet.farm!feed.usenet.farm!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 19:11:05 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 1892 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <18386b25d8c7741e$902784$1498207$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 2336 On 4/21/2025 9:03 PM, Physfitfreak wrote: > On 4/21/25 1:25 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote: >> On 4/21/2025 8:05 PM, Physfitfreak wrote: >>> On 4/21/25 1:29 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote: >>>> On 4/20/2025 9:12 PM, Physfitfreak wrote: >>>> >>>> >> Werner Heisenberg said, "We have to remember that what we >>>> observe is not >>>> >> nature in itself but nature exposed to our method of questioning." >>>> >>>> What we observe - is a claim. It's >>>> a text information. It submits our >>>> rules of text processing, nature >>>> "in itself" has nothing to do with >>>> it and never had. >>>> And, yes - a theory teaches us how >>>> our observation should look like. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Text information" is nature in itself, Bozo. >> >> >> No it is not. Without a trained by a culture >> human mind able to interprete it it's either >> a stream of meaningless sounds or a stream >> of meaningless characters, Bozo. >> >> > > > > "a stream of meaningless sounds" is nature in itself, Bozo. But a text isn't that.