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On 6/22/2025 12:31 AM, Python wrote:
 > Le 21/06/2025 à 23:14, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a 
écrit :
 >> On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 10:19:43 +0000, Mikko wrote:
 >>
 >>> On 2025-06-20 18:55:34 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said:
 >>>
 >>>> On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 9:06:49 +0000, Mikko wrote:
 >>>>
 >>>>> On 2025-06-19 17:37:29 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said:
 >>>>>
 >>>>>> Perplexity:
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> "The First Postulate of Special Relativity
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> Statement of the First Postulate
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> The first postulate of special relativity, also known as the 
principle
 >>>>>> of relativity, states:
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> The laws of physics are the same in all inertial frames of
 >>>>>> reference."
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> "truism
 >>>>>> /ˈtrˌizƏm/  n. a statement that is obviously true and says 
nothing new
 >>>>>> or interesting. —truistic/trˈistik/ adj." -Oxford American.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> The first postulate is not a truism. It is possible to imagine a 
world
 >>>>> where it is not true and to believe that we actually live in a such
 >>>>> world.
 >>>
 >>>> Your reply does not explain how it is not obviously true and 
nothing new
 >>>> that wasn't already known long before Einstein.
 >>>
 >>> I did explain. And what I said was indeed known long before Einstein.
 >>>
 >>> If the first postulate were a truism nobody would ever have believed
 >>> otherwise. But ancinet literature shows that the opposite belief was
 >>> common.
 >> So, Einstein added nothing new. How does that provide a basis for his
 >> new theory? That he accepted the consensus view since Newton?
 >
 > Read paragraph I.1. in Einstein paper. This is the main point : the 
meaning of the time coordinate  in an inertial frame.

Later, of course, the idiot discovered
that  there is no inertial frame and his
absurd concept lost any meaning.

 > some "universal time". Einstein asked for the time coordinate to be 
defined physically

Poor idiot has lost any connection to
the reality, of course.



 > and proposed a procedure (the same one Poincaré proposed before) and 
he proved that such a procedure is in conflict with absolute simultaneity.

Of course, that alone makes the Holiest
Procedure practically worthless.