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On 7/13/2025 7:43 PM, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
> Den 12.07.2025 22:00, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2025 9:41:17 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The "speed of light" is the speed measured by an observer,
>>> it is the speed relative to the observer.
>>> So how do you imagine that the speed relative to the observer
>>> could "include the speed of the observer"?
>>> What "speed of the observer" are you referring to?
>>>
>>> The point is that it is experimentally confirmed that all
>>> observers will measure the same speed of light, even when
>>> the observers are moving relative to each other.
>>>
>>> That means that the speed of light is invariant, the same
>>> in all frames of reference.
>>> Or as you put it: "the observer finds the speed of light
>>> relative to him to be c even if he is moving towards
>>> or away from the source." (the second postulate of SR).
>>>
>>> Experimental evidence trumps your opinion which
>>> probably is that the speed of light is c only in
>>> the rest frame of the source.
>>>
> 
>> When the source of a wave changes speed, its frequency changes, but not
>> its speed. When the observer's speed changes, the wave's frequency
>> changes, proving that the relative speed of the wave has changed. To
>> claim that the speed of the observer does not affect the relative speed
>> is nonsense. Stupid, Ignorant, irrational nonsense.
> 
> Do you never read what you are responding to?
> 
> Repeat:
> The speed of light is invariant so any inertial observer
> will always measure the speed of light to be c.


True - only because there is no "inertial
observer" as described by The Shit of
your idiot guru.