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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Einstein's derivation of a doubling of Newtonian deflection. Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 22:35:33 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <188cd2b3ace1597b2ab2ad4a0db89f3b@www.novabbs.com> References: <15da5b7440959b4303bfa1e9e636ee05@www.novabbs.com> <67B38A8C.1533@ix.netcom.com> <c4170427b224c2947ec2300e82fc5dc4@www.novabbs.com> <67B3B098.6647@ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="531937"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="HcQFdl4zp4UQRQ9N18ivMn6Fl9V8n4SPkK4oZHLgYdQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$so.QpXe9pw2kcM43Nfy9e.S32dkEIqZquQJOTF9B0PBKFAZPqcrCS X-Rslight-Posting-User: a2f761a7401f13abeefca3440f16b2f27b708180 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 21:56:40 +0000, The Starmaker wrote: > LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >> >> On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 19:14:20 +0000, The Starmaker wrote: >> >>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>> >>>> How relativity derives the amount of the deflection: >>>> >>>> 1. It accepts the mass-velocity relationship, which prohibits anything >>>> with any mass from reaching light speed, meaning the photon can have no >>>> mass. >>>> 2. Therefore, according to relativity, gravity cannot affect photons. >>>> >>>> Relativity either has to abandon the mass-velocity relationship or >>>> abandon the claim that photons are affected by gravity. Until then, it >>>> remains self-contradictory nonsense, as always. >>> >>> >>> and then they continue the con by making up werds like...gravity energy. >>> >>> >>> wats next? spacetime?? >>> >>> >> If you would avoid putting words in my mouth like "con," I would >> appreciate it. Then, you might begin to engage in intelligent discourse. >> If you are defending relativity, you should be able to explain the >> contradiction. You have not defended it from this criticism. What do you >> believe? Do photons have mass, or do they not? Can you make up your >> mind? > > > > Is the source of gravity mass or energy? > Answer a question with a question when you have no answer. The source of the gravity energy is the mass.