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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 05:44:53 +0000 Subject: Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vctp2q$349f1$1@dont-email.me> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 01:44:52 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <vctp2q$349f1$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <1a2dnei6z8bIPm77nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 49 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-v7QIWYJAeySdx1fupM5jEG9xXneCdpWBB/3kjY93whDUg6J7QVyToctkvwWGC0Ctbpziq2kShbKNTS4!l/6Kw3DMsdeXGW+CerQZuC74q3Xmgy/oLaf5FOkJLmL/jx3lsQrjVmCnCGQHB9nME0WV0mVA5jFs!lELyk9cWQKZamaZBe3Yq X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2853 On 9/24/24 3:17 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 02:45:16 -0400, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > >> Still have my K&R 'C' book ... > > Would hope you have caught up with C99, at least. Ummm ... STILL mostly stick to the Original Product. Can't go wrong. >> Oh, "network programming" is HARD ... > > Not that hard. Some of us do it every day. Yea, but not so MANY of you in the world ... It's a relatively rare/important skill. A pre-threaded bi-di TCP daemon does not require THAT much code these days, but the routines that code invokes are *complicated*. Do NOT wanna go to THAT level. > <https://gitlab.com/ldo/ssl_try_python/> > >> Wrote a FORTRAN app just a couple of years ago ... > > Did you use a suitably recent version of Fortran, namely Fortran 90 at > least? It’s quite a decent language these days. F77 Adequate for the purpose. It was a 'decent' language even then. More 'friendly' now, but be careful how much 'solid'/'simple' you trade for "friendly". NOT sure if there are still NATIVE F77 compilers for Linux. Things like gFortran - just 'C' translators - may as well just do it in 'C' to begin with. I *think* there are still native F77 compilers for Linux - but quick searches don't name them anymore. Maybe 'flang-16' ... but it's reputed to be missing some stuff. Good old 8-bit compilers ... Intel 'fixed' THAT. DO have an old core2-quad box that still runs 8-bit however.