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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Even Google AI Overview understands me now --- HHH(DDD)==0 Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2024 07:23:11 +0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 521 Message-ID: <1a3716fc1a1d62f9f44396ca12f8a9e129864573.camel@gmail.com> References: <vdgpbs$2nmcm$1@dont-email.me> <vdvfki$1e78r$1@dont-email.me> <db4ba1c99ee737853f685719877d3b295f887e91@i2pn2.org> <ve0j03$1n4d9$2@dont-email.me> <8f8f81ca09cc2a36481999e0408ff2e3ca780f39@i2pn2.org> <ve1p1i$1s2mq$1@dont-email.me> <085a1c3ee93ae5388d60b4b195fdb7a0b1ae70ed@i2pn2.org> <ve1r9p$1t0bn$1@dont-email.me> <ade7b09486ca9de753a35f88aa4540c0233df3dd@i2pn2.org> <ve2038$1tdjm$1@dont-email.me> <56b830364cf651238ea19749c6dda753427cf8fb@i2pn2.org> <ve21rv$1tm6t$1@dont-email.me> <4ead3c7dcd0cb13a6c655716f106bb836aa4bc47@i2pn2.org> <ve39fd$26g97$1@dont-email.me> <030f6c2bf84dc1776787d597adcf5c2015cc861d@i2pn2.org> <ve3e3r$26g97$4@dont-email.me> <8c474bc7aee03e8eedb712f48c4b39c1c9e88a7b@i2pn2.org> <ve3gb8$27ad7$1@dont-email.me> <243d02f2d3397e7f681ebdad2e9b7d8a346bb75c@i2pn2.org> <ve405a$29pn2$1@dont-email.me> <a8e26927fd1751a23d0e4fc4e68a912628bd63da@i2pn2.org> <ve473a$2afp6$1@dont-email.me> <37c291e02299479ab8b55256f3744fe0ba48f6db@i2pn2.org> <ve4e64$2bp17$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2024 01:23:13 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fafd51d8166b5869e9175a9ccb64f709"; logging-data="2479475"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+pBTtOAfEh8K8DUfE0NRa3" User-Agent: Evolution 3.50.2 (3.50.2-1.fc39) Cancel-Lock: sha1:WQcwuiEQDCuB2RQn7VAE2hbAXPk= In-Reply-To: <ve4e64$2bp17$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 26695 On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 18:10 -0500, olcott wrote: > On 10/8/2024 4:27 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > On 10/8/24 5:10 PM, olcott wrote: > > > On 10/8/2024 3:48 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > > > On 10/8/24 3:11 PM, olcott wrote: > > > > > On 10/8/2024 12:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > > > > > On 10/8/24 10:41 AM, olcott wrote: > > > > > > > On 10/8/2024 9:10 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > > > > > > > > On 10/8/24 10:03 AM, olcott wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 10/8/2024 8:21 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 10/8/24 8:44 AM, olcott wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/8/2024 6:51 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/7/24 9:28 PM, olcott wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/7/2024 8:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/7/24 8:58 PM, olcott wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/7/2024 7:48 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/7/24 7:36 PM, olcott wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/7/2024 6:04 PM, Richard Damon wrote= : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/7/24 6:57 PM, olcott wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/7/2024 5:39 PM, Richard Damon w= rote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/7/24 8:08 AM, olcott wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/7/2024 6:02 AM, Richard Dam= on wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/24 10:05 PM, olcott wro= te: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/2024 8:29 PM, Richard= Damon wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/24 8:05 PM, olcott = wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/2024 5:36 PM, Ric= hard Damon wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/24 3:05 PM, olc= ott wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/2024 1:52 PM,= Richard Damon wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/24 2:32 PM,= olcott wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/2024 1:13= PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/24 2:03= PM, olcott wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/2024 = 12:29 PM, Richard Damon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/24 = 1:07 PM, olcott wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/2= 024 11:59 AM, Richard Damon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6= /24 8:39 AM, olcott wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DDD e= mulated by each > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > corre= sponding HHH=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that = can possibly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exist= never returns. Each of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these= HHH=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emula= tors that does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > retur= n 0 correctly reports the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > above= =20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > non- = halting behavior. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, the= DDD return (if the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HHH(DDD= )=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gives a= n answer), just after the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HHH=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that em= ulated them gave up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DDD emula= ted by each corresponding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HHH=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that can = possibly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exist nev= er returns. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DDD emula= ted by each corresponding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HHH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DDD emula= ted by each corresponding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HHH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DDD emula= ted by each corresponding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HHH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DDD emula= ted by each corresponding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HHH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which, as y= ou have been told but seems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be above yo= ur head means that the=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > execution o= f DDD,=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gets to ignor= e the fact that DDD was=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > defined to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have a pathol= ogical relationship with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HHH=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HHH cannot ig= nore. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, that isn't = ignoring it, but taking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > account that si= nce HHH is defined to be a=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > specific progra= m, it has specific > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > behavior. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The behavior of t= he executed DDD after the=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emulated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DDD has already b= een aborted is different=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > than the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > behavior of the e= mulated DDD that must be=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aborted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope, it is the exa= ct same code on the exact=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same data, and thus= does the exact same=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > behavior. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The execution trace p= roves that the executed=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DDD has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different behavior th= ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========