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From: joes <noreply@example.org>
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Subject: Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating
 itself emulating DDD
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:22:22 -0000 (UTC)
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Am Wed, 04 Dec 2024 13:14:20 -0600 schrieb olcott:
> On 12/4/2024 9:32 AM, joes wrote:
>> Am Tue, 03 Dec 2024 17:08:34 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>> On 12/3/2024 3:03 AM, joes wrote:
>>>> Am Mon, 02 Dec 2024 20:48:49 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>> On 11/28/2024 1:48 PM, joes wrote:
>>>>>> Am Thu, 28 Nov 2024 11:35:16 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 11:32 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>> Am Thu, 28 Nov 2024 11:07:16 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 10:51 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Am Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:47:10 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 10:27 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:16:15 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 4:04 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Wed, 27 Nov 2024 19:15:41 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/27/2024 8:03 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/27/24 8:28 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/27/2024 6:14 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If HHH halts at all, it needs to return that HHH halts.
>>>>>>>>> DDD emulated by any HHH cannot possibly halt.
>>>>>>>>> You can fail to understand that, you can lie about that, it
>>>>>>>>> remains immutably a verified fact none-the-less.
>>>>>>>> Yes, HHH can't simulate itself.
>>>>>>> The code proves that HHH does emulate itself emulating DDD why
>>>>>>> lie?
>>>>>> The code proves that HHH aborts.
>>>>> You said:
>>>>>    >>> HHH can't simulate itself.
>>>>> That is WRONG !!!
>>>>> HHH DOES EMULATE ITSELF PROVING THAT IT CAN EMULATE ITSELF.
>>>> We know that HHH halts. It doesn't simulate itself halting.
>>> Please try and explain how you are not dishonest what you try to
>>> change the subject from my rebuttal of your statement:
>>>   >>> HHH can't simulate itself.
>>> That HHH does emulate itself emulating DDD proves THAT IT CAN DO THIS.
>> I'm not changing the subject. HHH is a decider, right?
> We have not begun to get to that point of the conversation yet. We have
> only been talking about the emulation of DDD by HHH for three months.
For that it seems relevant what HHH does. Ok, it simulates some number
of steps of its input, potentially forever?

> *We must go though my proof ONE-STEP-AT-A-TIME*
Only you must. Why? Just give me the full thing, if you have it.

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Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.