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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: The Relativity Mafia Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 21:25:12 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <1b4ef5dda41326607da790d275327b2d@www.novabbs.com> References: <a286e4c1a77753568151f1184e1d8e47@www.novabbs.com> <ee3c60b588f3bce0e15a548cf115bf85@www.novabbs.com> <bb9df963b38c602b698971db98d0dd9c@www.novabbs.com> <345893bac4b67219938a7b06e34a63b7@www.novabbs.com> <z92cnb7o0oWdkNf6nZ2dnZfqnPjcy52d@giganews.com> <9b0dc1590136ac6bd5da1916cd673ec3@www.novabbs.com> <G6ednXwxfr6VR9H6nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3846181"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="HcQFdl4zp4UQRQ9N18ivMn6Fl9V8n4SPkK4oZHLgYdQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: a2f761a7401f13abeefca3440f16b2f27b708180 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$AGxTk/QLnWC09AgslcoqaOc0WGR0eAt7/ptDZ7J3Xg.JIYLkGw882 Bytes: 3413 Lines: 50 On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 21:49:39 +0000, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 12/01/2024 01:33 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 18:50:19 +0000, Ross Finlayson wrote: >> >>> On 11/29/2024 10:08 AM, Bertietaylor wrote: >>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 16:58:53 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bertie: I haven't connected with Arindam due to his claims about >>>>> ultimate realities. He probably thinks light is affected by gravity and >>>>> I don't. >>>> >>>> You are right and Arindam will agree totally with you for he has proved >>>> that gravity is an electrostatic phenomenon. >>>> >>>> Bertietaylor >>> >>> Heaviside and crew arrived at that action in the electrical field >>> was just a bit _beyond_ c, I suppose one might say, the "mass-less". >> It seems we may be able to have energy without mass. > > Well yeah, energy is just whatever is potential, > yet, there's no energy without entelechy. > > That said, various derivations like when electromagnetism > arrives at an edge speed higher than c, in meters per second, > got no problems on their own after their own constructivistic > account. > > > A tetrad of quantities like mass/charge/lifetime/velocity, > about you'll notice four particles like neutron/electron/proton/photon, > about four forces like strong, electrical, weak, electroweak, > and four fields for those four forces, > and often in linear accounts a trio of the free one the fixed, > has that theories like GR have one or two of those, while QM > sort of billiard-balls them all together, then without > having another "element" like "ether", for space, > or a projection of prediction, for time, > have it so that a sort of tetra of quantities is > then arrived at as "energy", everywhere, connected, > "entelechy" everywhere, it's called "continuity law > a stronger than conservation law". > > > You can emulate the particle physicists and just put > "photons" everywhere doing whatever you say. > > It's not considered very conscientious, .... Since water is potentially solid, liquid, or gas, but actually only one of these at a time, couldn't energy exist without matter?