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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: What composes the mass of an =?UTF-8?B?ZWxlY3Ryb24/?= Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 15:29:23 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <1b68784108ae0b9c384e6a60d606ad9a@www.novabbs.com> References: <a3b70d34ff5188e99c00b2cf098e783a@www.novabbs.com> <5141c85243271c7304ba56bfef644aa0@www.novabbs.com> <18063c99e17a8a2e$14$1022089$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <c35196df83fd49b424244d922b7924ca@www.novabbs.com> <18065991e0039a1e$16$1022089$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <cb2b7ffbc213383ea96d26427d9fb0b0@www.novabbs.com> <18068e8550a65c77$381565$977218$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <55b20121efaeac53aa58574fc4ab6e2e@www.novabbs.com> <1806b7206a3339cc$381734$977218$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <e4c6eb3f3c3b05d6bc1e38d720f2d1a7@www.novabbs.com> <1806f020dbebefc6$7671$1022089$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <3c8b74e795cee7f20722ec0dfcaceeec@www.novabbs.com> <1806fd03c363f010$9350$1022089$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <161fdadf0ab8c47e4b88f64d42c4de36@www.novabbs.com> <18075c3b4cc00fd9$410843$977218$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2286972"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="TRF929uvrTGZYJLF+N3tVBXNVfr/PeoSjsJ9hd5hWzo"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$TVB7Fls/qrIWVMI4/a4ohuP0mxXhhKPeACsd.iJgG/b121Ei2NMKy X-Rslight-Posting-User: cefb4c33981645a229d345bae7bb8942e6b32c35 Bytes: 3132 Lines: 39 On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 23:26:34 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > W dniu 12.11.2024 o 20:35, gharnagel pisze: > > > > On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:21:39 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > > > > > I've proven the mumble of your idiot guru to be inconsistent, > > > and you can do nothing about it > > > > I've already done something about it. > > Yes, but nothing apart spitting, ionsulting > and slandering, as expected from a good > relativistic doggie. Wozniak has either a poor or a selective one. Speaking of his "inconsistency proof": Anyway, it is easily refuted. Place a clock on earth that can be read by the moving observer. It will read 86400 seconds/day, in complete accordance with the definition. That the observer's clock will read 99766 seconds is in accord with relativity as well as experimental measurement of time dilation. Wozniak is conflating two different things and confusing as well as being confused by reality. Definitions are human inventions, the nature of the universe (like time, space and time dilation) isn't. Like relativity, definitions are relative: "The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's throat, for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act as the destroyer of liberty. Plainly, the sheep and the wolf are not agreed upon a definition of liberty." -- Abraham Lincoln