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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: ChatGPT refutes the key rebuttal of my work --- correct emulation --- CORRECTION Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 07:55:30 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <1b74fcd36e0c03ebf2dcaa8d1a3d636485060e7b@i2pn2.org> References: <vegfro$lk27$9@dont-email.me> <veimqs$14que$1@dont-email.me> <veipf3$15764$1@dont-email.me> <36ecdefcca730806c7bd9ec03e326fac1a9c8464@i2pn2.org> <vejcoj$1879f$1@dont-email.me> <034767682966b9ac642993dd2fa0d181c21dfffc@i2pn2.org> <vekj4q$1hrgd$1@dont-email.me> <f8a15594bf0623a229214e2fb62ce4f4a2bd7116@i2pn2.org> <velpm2$1n3gb$6@dont-email.me> <8f12bccec21234ec3802cdb3df63fd9566ba9b07@i2pn2.org> <vemc30$1q255$1@dont-email.me> <3b7102e401dc2d872ab53fd94fc433841caf3170@i2pn2.org> <vemhn0$1qqfr$2@dont-email.me> <61ffc8131435005aaf8976ddbf109b8f16c77668@i2pn2.org> <ven83o$2230b$1@dont-email.me> <a20cf5f40db4e9e4e5023a48d13e220443c4dea7@i2pn2.org> <vepli3$2f3g0$2@dont-email.me> <0975f9e6532bcbcb01481c57539fcd45e6b2ff8b@i2pn2.org> <vepn9n$2f3g0$4@dont-email.me> <1824607a6c6cab233d26fd6400e6d1a64df027a8@i2pn2.org> <vercoq$2qhve$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 07:55:30 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2553830"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 4601 Lines: 52 Am Thu, 17 Oct 2024 11:07:53 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 10/17/2024 6:09 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 10/16/24 8:55 PM, olcott wrote: >>> On 10/16/2024 7:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 10/16/24 8:25 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 10/16/2024 6:44 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> On 10/15/24 10:23 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> On 10/15/2024 9:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>> On 10/15/24 4:01 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 10/15/2024 2:33 PM, joes wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Am Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:25:36 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/2024 10:17 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Am Tue, 15 Oct 2024 08:11:30 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/2024 6:35 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/24 10:13 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/2024 6:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/14/24 11:18 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did that, and it admitted that DDD halts, it just tries >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to justify why a wrong answer must be right. >>>>>>>>>>>>> It explains in great detail that another different DDD (same >>>>>>>>>>>>> machine code different process context) seems to terminate >>>>>>>>>>>>> only because the recursive emulation that it specifies has >>>>>>>>>>>>> been aborted at its second recursive call. >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes! It really has different code, by way of the static Root >>>>>>>>>>>> variable. >>>>>>>>>>>> No wonder it behaves differently. >>>>>>>>>>> There are no static root variables. There never has been any >>>>>>>>>>> "not a pure function of its inputs" aspect to emulation. >>>>>>>>>> Oh, did you take out the check if HHH is the root simulator? >>>>>>>>> There is some code that was obsolete several years ago. >>>>>>>> No, that code is still active. it is the source of the value for >>>>>>>> the variable Root that is passed around, and is checked in the >>>>>>>> code to alter the behavior. >>>>>>> It has no effect on the trace itself. >>>>>> Yes it does. >>>>> HHH is correctly emulating (not simulating) the x86 language finite >>>>> string of DDD including emulating the finite string of itself >>>>> emulating the finite string of DDD up until the point where the >>>>> emulated emulated DDD would call HHH(DDD) again. >>>> Nope, not to a degree that determine the final behavior of the input. >>> You are responding to something that I did not say. >>> HHH correctly emulates N steps of DDD therefore N steps of DDD are >>> correctly emulated by HHH. >> Right, but just because N steps don't get to the return, doesn't mean >> that the input doesn't return. Don't copypaste irrelevant shit. Are you saying that simulating only finitely many loops is the same as infinitely many? -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.