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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems
Subject: Re: NO ONE, by George Dance
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2025 13:54:27 +0000
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On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 12:36:52 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>> HarryLime wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 1:37:30 +0000, MummyChunk wrote:
>
>>>>>>> HarryLime wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 14:18:32 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 12:49:21 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain aka
>>>>>>>> "HarryLime" wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:30:12 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 3:56:39 +0000, Michael Monkey aka "HarryLime"
>>>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> NO ONE
>>>>>>>> by fake George Dance
>>>>>>>> (in the style of George Dance)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No one
>>>>>>>> accused you of
>>>>>>>> plagiarism,
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> silly
>>>>>>>> c*nt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please stop
>>>>>>>> repeating your
>>>>>>>> online friend's
>>>>>>>> lie.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Damn, George!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's so good that it's got me sorry that I banned you from AAPC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You banned me from aapc? Oh dear, whatever shall I do?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's absurd, a.a.p.c. is a Usenet newsgroup, Michael Pendragon aka
>>>>>>>> Harry Lime has no control over it and can't possibly "ban"
>>>>>> anyone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please don't try to play dumb, Donkey.  You're more than stupid enough
>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a.a.p.c. was a Usenet newsgroup... until Will Donkey and his socks drove
>>>>>>>> all of the group's members over to Facebook.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, Peabrain. No, HarryLiar. aapc still exists as a usenet group. You're
>>>>>>>> posting to it right now, you stupid c*nt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, George Dance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NEWSFLASH: Usenet is dead.
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely untrue.
>>>
>>> How so?  "Argument’s an intellectual process. Contradiction’s just the
>>> automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says."
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Usenet is a form of internet communication that pre-dated the World Wide
>>>>>>> Web.  When the Web became a global phenomenon in the late 1990s, Usenet
>>>>>>> became out-dated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It continued to exist for an increasingly small number of users who had
>>>>>>> used it in the pre-WWW world, or who studied computer programming, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In 2001, Google created a "Google Groups" app that linked WWW
>>>>>> users to
>>>>>>> the Usenet groups.  This app was the only way that people who had not
>>>>>>> used Usenet in the pre-WWW world had of discovering Usenet's existence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even with the Google app, the Usenet groups continued to dwindle is
>>>>>>> size, leading to Google's abandonment of them last year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When Google pulled the plug, the majority of Google Group members sought
>>>>>>> out other forums.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most of the Usenet a.a.p.c. members migrated to the Facebook a.a.p.c.
>>>>>>> group.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since the majority of the members are now there (myself, NancyGene, Jim,
>>>>>>> Karen, Corey, Ash, Wenceslaus, Richard, Bob, ME), it *is* the a.a.c.p.
>>>>>>> group.  You, your Donkey, Rachel, Jordy, and General Stink) are
>>>>>>> stragglers who have been left behind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's as if a club had moved to a new address, and taken the majority of
>>>>>>> its patrons with it -- while a handful of former members stubbornly hang
>>>>>>> out in the club's former building (now abandoned).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now a.a.p.c. is a Facebook group.
>>>>
>>>> alt.arts.poetry.comments is and always will be a Usenet newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>> All the blister in the world from Harry Lime aka Michael Pendragon won't
>>>> change that fact.
>>>
>>> It's already been changed, Donkey.  75+ % of the group has left Usenet
>>> for Facebook.
>>>
>>> alt.arts.poetry.comments may continue to exist as a social forum on
>>> Usenet, but is, and in all probability shall remain, nothing more than a
>>> forum in which to watch Will Donkey playing with his socks.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is a facebook group that is named after aapc, here:
>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/105463832836304
>>>>>>>> - and at least one copycat group. But aapc is still a usenet group, and
>>>>>>>> will be as long as there's a usenet.
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely correct.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Usenet's a relic.  Your Facebook group is an offshoot from a relic.
>>>>>>> There are few members at either -- and fewer members who are actually
>>>>>>> poets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> George Dance had been a member of the Facebook group, but he got himself
>>>>>>>> banned.
>>>>
>>>> No surprise there with Michael Pendragon aka Harry Lime in charge.
>>>
>>>
>>> I haven't had to ban anyone else, Donkey.  Perhaps the problem is...
>>> George.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, Lying Michael; I'm a member of both the usenet and facebook groups.
>>>>>>>> Maybe you're referring to one of those copycat groups, where I wasnt
>>>>>>>> posting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Calling the Official AAPC Facebook Group a "copycat group" won't
>>>>>> change
>>>>>>> the fact that the majority of a.a.p.c. members are now posting there.
>>>>
>>>> If they're not posting here on the real Usenet newsgroup, founded back
>>>> around 1998, they're not really on alt.arts.poetry.comments.
>>>
>>> Based on what logic?  A group is several people who have bonded together
>>> (in this case, because they share a common interest in poetry).  The
>>> group has moved to a different location.
>>>
>>> alt.arts.poetry.comments is no longer a group.  It's a location.  And
>>> right now, it's looking like a ghost town.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> A group is a group of people -- not a Usenet address or a Facebook page.
>>>>>>> The group (the members of a.a.c.p.) has relocated
>>>>
>>>> The Usenet poetry newsgroups have had hundreds of poets come and go and
>>>> return again.
>>>
>>> "Hundreds" seems like a slight exaggeration.  Based on what I've seen
>>> from this group, I'd place the number (generously) around a dozen.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not just on a.a.p.c but also rec.arts.poems, alt.portry and other Usenet
>>>> newsgroups.
>>>>
>>>> A Facebook page is okay but it's no replacement for Usenet.
>>>
>>> It certainly is, as it performs all of the same functions.  We can, and
>>> do, post and discuss one another's poetry there.
>>>
>>> In fact, I'll even go so far as to say that it's not only a replacement,
>>> but an improvement on Usenet, since we're able to keep it Donkey free.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Deal with it.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing to deal with, if you prefer Facebook then go there, not a
>>>> problem.
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