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On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 13:38:25 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>In article <k9sd1j9c6lubcssglu2u5f5cki5jfg86ol@4ax.com>,
> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:55:54 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article 
>> ><1782814550.734460645.097495.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
>> > anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>> >> > One of my friends just shared a video with me touting the features of
>> >> > the latest Tesla FSD (Full Self Driving) software and I was surprised
>> >> > to find that it was made in Scottsdale. It's essentially the first
>> >> > video footage I've seen of the place.
>> >> > 
>> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX4kekZ2Fps [25 minutes]
>> >> > 
>> >> > I've always found it interesting to see places I've never been. They
>> >> > always seem to look different than whatever I've anticipated. This is
>> >> > no exception. I suppose I was expecting more sandy desert and cactus and
>> >> > fewer boulders and scrub grass and palm trees ;-)
>> >> > 
>> >> > Anyway, anyone curious to see what the area looks like might find this
>> >> > an interesting video.  
>> >> > 
>> >> Thanks for the post. I found it an interesting watch.
>> >> 
>> >> It does confuse me on several points.
>> >> 
>> >> The bashes he went to (supermarket) isn’t even in Scottsdale. It’s about 15
>> >> miles to the south in another city. Bashes supermarkets are all over the
>> >> place. There are literally half a dozen between the one he went to and his
>> >> friends house so I have no idea why he did that.
>> >> 
>> >> The cheesesteak place he went to, I’ve never heard of, but it’s very near
>> >> my old office, and only a couple miles from where I live.
>> >> 
>> >> Most of what you see in the video are freeways, industrial areas, shopping
>> >> centers. That is what those things look like but if you drove around
>> >> through neighborhoods people live in, you would see a lot more lawns and
>> >> greenery. Traditionally people move here from back east to get away from
>> >> their allergies and bring with them everything they were allergic to.
>> >> 
>> >> Yes, palm trees are everywhere! I have had several. They are actually
>> >> rogue. They just appear in your yard one day and then decades later are 50
>> >> feet tall. I have had several removed because they were too close to the
>> >> house and were going to take the roof right off as they pushed on the eaves
>> >> from below.
>> >
>> >Yes, L.A.'s ubiquitous and signature palm trees are not native to 
>> >California, either. They're an invasive species (actually several 
>> >species) that people just happen to find attractive for landscaping.
>> >
>> >I've heard that palms are also technically not trees. Don't know if 
>> >that's true or not.
>> 
>> So it is just like the tumbleweed. We associate the tumbleweed with
>> the old west and palm trees with Los Angeles/Hollywood and neither one
>> actually belongs there.
>
>The person who told me they're not trees said they're technically a type 
>of grass.

Yeah, that seems to be the case judging by this response over the
Googlemeister.

Grasses belong to Poaceae family and Palms belong to Arecaceae family.
Both have parallel venation in leaves. Palm trees do not have bark or
woody tissue like other trees. These are the reasons that it might be
recognized as a grass and not a tree.

So, botanically speaking, palms are big grass. However, when
discussing plants in the landscape, many palms are rather tall so they
are designated as trees to separate them from shrubs and ground
covers.