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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: The Shapiro's experiment HOAX. A 1968 TIME article. Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 00:13:37 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <1f1b6e5f22e115b849ed4dc6fb087e8e@www.novabbs.com> References: <db18709b6ba689b9c07245000ff1b094@www.novabbs.com> <EgMPO.1766243$4J12.285784@fx12.ams4> <670ffed7$1$32085$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <2fcf10d29b40e102861392bbb5f1cb0c@www.novabbs.com> <6712b99d$0$12930$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <788c11c48cd3bd847cf3812e2bd0fe2c@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2664090"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="OjDMvaaXMeeN/7kNOPQl+dWI+zbnIp3mGAHMVhZ2e/A"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: 26080b4f8b9f153eb24ebbc1b47c4c36ee247939 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$uorVw4nVHO5LKiVF9cLv2OxUNS0Wq.9D/rQa3E8Ic4Yqw8l3IbuZe Bytes: 3284 Lines: 52 I want to highlight some "relativistic assertions" about Shapiro's delay, so the idiot relativists that support this crap may enter in reason: 1. For Venus: over a distance of more than 260 million Km (Earth and Venus on opposite side of the Sun), being that light takes about 867 seconds for a 1-Way trip, a Shapiro's delay of about 150 usec MAKES SENSE for space navigation. This is a difference of about 4.3 ppm in the transit. WHO CARES? WHAT IS A VALID SCIENTIFIC ASSERTION OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS ALLEGED DELAY, WHEN SPACE NAVIGATION IS BASED ON MUCH MORE SERIOUS AND REAL FORMULAE, ALGORITHMS AND REAL TIME ONBOARD TRAJECTORY PROCESSING? Only to show that GR is a real thing? IMBECILES. 2. If there is no alignment of planets in such a way that they are on a line of sight VERY FAR FROM SUN'S SURFACE, the alleged delay fall 10 times, and the "error" is then about 0.43 ppm. DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW IMBECILES ARE IN BELIEVING THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT? 3. Making things worse, enter the French people, stealing data from HIPPARCOS and claiming that they resolved the REAL POSITION of hundred of stars with precision in the order of tens of micro-arcseconds. WHO, IN ITS SANE STATE OF MIND, CAN AFFIRM THAT THIS HIPPARCOS HOAX HAS THE LEAST PRACTICAL VALUE? And all of the above, so relativists can claim that GR works? INSANE PEOPLE, IDIOT PEOPLE, IGNORANT PEOPLE, USELESS PEOPLE, ETC. And worse, these "scientists" make a good living standard BY STEALING MONEY from Universities, government funds, etc. They are PARASITES OF SCIENCE. They CONTRIBUTE IN NOTHING to the advancement of REAL SCIENCE, which makes a path clear for new technological solutions. Remember: USELESS SCIENCE PARASITES THAT DON'T WORTH THE AIR THEY BREATHE. And that is the REAL HOAX about GR: LEACHES STEALING VALID RESOURCES TO PRODUCE NOTHING, PROTECTING BETWEEN THEMSELVES AGAINST OPPOSITION, AND DEFENDING THE CHICKEN THAT THEY STEAL FROM WHO REALLY NEED IT, DEVOURING IT FOR FREE (SARCASM HERE). THE HOAX IS TO CLAIM THAT WORKS IN THIS LINE OF DOING HAVE ANY MERIT.