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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Peter Olcott seems to continue to blatantly lie Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 07:29:21 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <1f23fe431ec65e0e472d3661d279755beaae0983@i2pn2.org> References: <v644pn$29t4h$3@dont-email.me> <5e6e8072022c865ced4b1a1de23b786bc05c22ce@i2pn2.org> <v64qr3$2e7d4$1@dont-email.me> <0354c808b6aa23146776ec5ad6eed3b66cab2713@i2pn2.org> <v64tur$2emil$1@dont-email.me> <6020931f5638c63badea7d322cc5c555022c0f40@i2pn2.org> <v6ik5u$199c1$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:29:22 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2678676"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <v6ik5u$199c1$1@dont-email.me> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2863 Lines: 34 On 7/9/24 2:09 AM, Barb Knox wrote: > On 04/07/2024 13:53, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 7/3/24 9:30 PM, olcott wrote: >>> On 7/3/2024 8:12 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 7/3/24 8:36 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 7/3/2024 6:18 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> On 7/3/24 2:20 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> _DDD() >>>>>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>>>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>>>>>> [00002183] c3 ret > > [...] > > Can someone please explain to me why a discussion of the Halting Problem > is using Intel assembly laguage? > Because Peter doesn't understand how Turing Machines work and can't get his tiny brain wrapped around them. Also, since they only allow computation to be built, he can't use his tricks to build non-computations that try to show his lies. Also, it is complected enough, that he can just try to (falsely) claim that the otehr person is just not understanding how they work, but of course, the argument can't actually be stated in x86 behavior terms, as he need to argue about the call to the decider being just the equivalent to doing a new level of emulation, but there is no instruction that does that. And his lie is that HHH is "just an emulator" but also can make a decision to stop, but still acts just like an emulator.