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Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!border-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2025 18:10:33 +0000 From: Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Re: Even Lenovo's Getting Into The Act, Pt 2 Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2025 14:10:45 -0400 Summary: Copying or reuse for AI training or data sets not allowed Message-ID: <1f2o6kp40a8bvglal4rd30l364dnf8hasr@4ax.com> References: <01m2ojdr10d363t79vfqrf9a2ud88mub4g@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 56 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-LvhjctgeKa9HtvetWZWudxOM6zxqM5LL1DFJjrj6mvP2EhH7grsAXDIbXZ4ONblHoF2Bed5iHzK570p!+5FT4punWoqSX5PBTgYU0B23TgLaCphjrRh6XrhmhUTR3JzG2ETRZAECOzk1hdsuQP/bYFNb X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Just an update: The Legion Go S -the version with Steam OS- is now being made available and reviews are generally quite favorable.* It is, in the end, still a handheld gaming PC, so it is by nature a lesser experience than you'd get on a desktop or even most laptops. I'll be the first to admit it's not something I'm interested in using, regardless of whether the manufacturer is Lenovo, Acer, or Valve. But that's fine; I get that I'm not the market for these devices, and that there are many for whom the portability and handheld nature of the machines is important enough to overcome its disadvantages. So I'll try to restrain my usual negative attitude towards these devices. What I found most interesting, actually, is that the Legion GO S -and indeed, most of the SteamDeck clones- are actually superior devices to Valve's own machine. It shouldn't really be so surprising; Valve's handheld hasn't seen a hardware refresh since 2023, and that was mostly an upgrade to OLED display; its underlying architecture dates back to early 2022. Of course a machine released in 2025 has better performance! Still, I fully expected the clones to go cheap on the hardware, barely matching the original specs. But while these new machines aren't blowing the original Steam Deck out of the water, they /are/ noticeably faster. Whether they are BETTER than Valve's Steam Deck in any other regards is an entirely different issue; there's questions of fit-n-finish, and as far as I can tell Valve's OLED screen is superior to anything the rest are offering. But I think it's safe to say the clones are _competitive_ with Valve's own device. Which isn't, I think, anything that will upset Valve too much. Valve isn't really in it to become a hardware OEM; they created the SteamDeck as an example to prove the form-factor would work -both technically and in terms of popularity- as a gaming machine. Having proved the point, I'm sure they're quite happy to let other OEMs take the lead. SteamDeck mostly exists to push SteamOS, and remind Microsoft that it shouldn't assume its monopoly is foolproof. The more OEMs take up the gauntlet in Valve's name, the better for its cause. Anyway, if you were considering getting one of these machines but were debating whether it was worth risking a third-party OEM over Valve's own standard, well, it looks like it is. You might even save a few bucks. * one such review https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/lenovo-legion-go-s-steamos-review