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Subject: Re: Harry Liar recycles an old Pedodragon lie
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 21:13:47 +0000
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On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 19:08:35 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

> from
> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=255723&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#255723
>
> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 16:15:27 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MPP) aka
> "HarryLime" wrote:
>>>> You not only supported both Ginsberg and Pickles, but
>>>> you mistakenly claimed that NAMBLA had done more to support LGBT rights
>>>> than any other organization.
>>>
>>> No, Lying Michael. I told you that I agreed that gay sex for anyone
>>> above the age of consent should be legal, pointed out that NAMBLA was
>>> the only
>>> group in Canada campaigning for that, and even called you a "homophobe"
>>> when
>>> you insisted that it should continue to be illegal.
>>
>> I have your original statement on file, George, and can repost it if
>> necessary.
>>
>>>> You later retracted that claim, but the
>>>> damage to your reputation had already been done.
>>>
>>> No, Lying Michael. I still believe that gay sex between "children" above
>>> the
>>> age of consent should be legal, while you continue to lie and
>>> misrepresent that claim.
>>
>> No one ever said that sex, gay or straight, between two people above the
>> age of consent should not be legal, George.
>>
>> This is yet another attempt at a straw man argument on your part -- not
>> to mention a pathetic attempt to turn the discussion away from what
>> you'd actually said.
>
> No, it isn't, Lying Michael; but that means that we'll have to see what
> I
> "actually said."
>
>> Which means that I'm going to have to repost your *actual* statement in
>> context:
>>
>> MMP: As previously noted (do try to get some reading comprehension
>> skills, old man), I have never made an issue of the participants' sex.
>>
>> DUNCE: Another Pedodragon lie. You've ranted and raved for a month about
>> the group that's done the most to fight the above discrimination.
>>
>> MMP: NAMBLA??? Are you seriously attempting to argue that NAMBLA is
>> spearheading the fight against sexual discrimination???
>> [END OF QUOTED PASSAGE]
> I like how you snipped your last paragraph, where you answer your own
> question:
> <quote>
> "*** That's right. George Dunce believes that NAMBLA is "the group
> that's done the most to fight (sexual) discrimination." He also accused
> me of being a "homophobe" and a "Nazi" for having attacked them." </q>
>
> As noted, I called NAMBLA the group that did "the most to fighting the
> above discrimination." There's no way to tell from your post what
> discrimination I was talking about, since you posted that statement out
> of context - at least twice - as an OP so no one could tell. Then you
> made up a story (that I was talking about "sexual discrimination" in
> general), which you've now changed (to claim I
> was talking about "LGBT rights").
>
> First you posted under the title of "DUNCE OUTED!!!" on December 7,
> 2017. I responded the same day, to tell you that was not what I was
> talking about:
>
> <quote>
> On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 7:53:01 AM UTC-5,
> michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> <sigh> Yet another Pedodragon lie. I called Pedodragon a fascist because
> he wants to criminalize sex for people over the age of consent,
> including gays: specifically, gays between the age of consent and the
> unspecified higher age for anal sex he's advocating.
> I did point out that NAMBLA's been fighting the legal battle against the
> pedo's homophobic laws for decades, and here in Canada at least the
> "pedophiles" (as he'd call them) on the Supreme Court have agreed with
> them: those laws are unconstitutional. </q>
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/EnkIgYG-nwk/m/k-23aCsLAQAJ
>
> I also responded to your Chimp's backup flaming on the same thread:
> <q>
> On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 8:32:53 AM UTC-5, drive-by wrote:
>> NAMBLA fights age restrictions regarding young boys
>
> Boys 16-21, in the case of the laws we were discussing.
>
>> under the guise of 'freedom of speech' to avoid crossing the line into a
>> cell..Pedophilia is alive and well, unfortunately, but NAMBLA is
>> basically defunct at this point.
>> Homophobia and Nazi originated from the lips of Pickering
>
> "Nazi" was a Pendragon lie. I called him a fascist, because he wants to
> throw even (some) adults into jail for having consensual sex.
> And he's clearly a homophobe if he wants to throw males 17-21 into jail
> just for having anal sex.
> And he's a stupid homophobe if he really believes that throwing anyone
> in jail is going to protect them from the risks of anal sex.
> </q>
>
> You responded by snipping what I told you. Then, you posted the same
> deceptive post the next day, under the title of "GEORGE DANCE,
> NAMBLA-MAN," where you claimed that by "fight[ing] the above
> discrimination" I was talking about "human rights" in general.
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/V91D2MnuxtU/m/3t8tdrL-BgAJ
>
> The only replies to that one were two sock puppets: one using my name,
> and one using Zod's.
>
> You may have actually posted that deceitful, out-of-context post more
> than twice, but those were the only two I've tracked down.

Leave it to Lime/Pendragon to second hand even himself.

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