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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
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Subject: Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Yes to both for Peter
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Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:18:53 -0400
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On 7/3/24 10:19 AM, olcott wrote:
> On 7/3/2024 9:11 AM, joes wrote:
>> Am Tue, 02 Jul 2024 22:55:12 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>> On 7/2/2024 10:50 PM, joes wrote:
>>>> Am Tue, 02 Jul 2024 14:46:38 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>> On 7/2/2024 2:17 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>> Op 02.jul.2024 om 21:00 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 1:42 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>>> Op 02.jul.2024 om 14:22 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 3:22 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Op 02.jul.2024 om 03:25 schreef olcott:
>>
>>>>>> HHH repeats the process twice and aborts too soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> DDD is correctly emulated by any HHH that can exist which calls this
>>>>> emulated HHH(DDD) to repeat the process until aborted (which may be
>>>>> never).
>>>> Whatever HHH does, it does not run forever but aborts.
>>>>
>>> HHH halts on input DDD.
>>> DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly halt.
>> WTF? It only calls HHH, which you just said halts.
>>
> 
> An aborted simulation does not count as halting.

And doesn't show non-halting either.

> Reaching it own machine address 00002183 counts as halting.
> DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly do that.

But HHH doesn't DO a "Correct Simulation" that can show that, it only 
does a PARTIAL simulation.

The COMPLETE simulation of THAT input (still calling HHH) shows that DDD 
does halt.

And thus, you are proven to be a liar and an idiot at the same time as 
this HAS been explained to you many times, but you seem unable and 
unwilling to learn.

> 
> _DDD()
> [00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
> [00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
> [00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
> [0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
> [0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
> [00002182] 5d               pop ebp
> [00002183] c3               ret
> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>