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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin <JL@gct.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: Typical Globlist Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 18:53:30 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 79 Message-ID: <1fhjojtghglio037es1sbi7qh7viqffgk0@4ax.com> References: <7l1foj9pqc1n3merpa3o4aihrp9bg4gk1g@4ax.com> <vm8agd$2ulja$2@dont-email.me> <1r67ddg.n2108eiyjg7sN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <tclfojdbm3hgnsl2ioksub8vvvo4cv0fkh@4ax.com> <hrsfoj9q20ebv62q3g0fvo6a9v0sqfhtcu@4ax.com> <bh1gojp2q5iab60tb46b7lcan9svb7c265@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 03:53:31 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a132b654cc5a9393f18e10faa9d4a005"; logging-data="3962699"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ATbJOo/CoNmy+oKG6Ejjz" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:GU/GxfLPK26NdcNKP/Y9JK8mD6U= Bytes: 4496 On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 11:14:10 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote: >On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 17:49:41 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >wrote: > >>On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 07:47:36 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:01:30 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid >>>(Liz Tuddenham) wrote: >>> >>>>Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>>... Los Angles has a perfectly competent fire department, >>>>> which did all that was humanly possible. Sadly, they can't do anything >>>>> about anthropogenic global warming >>>> >>>>Part of the problem was too many trees and other plants close together - >>>>I don't notice anyone campaigning about that. >>>> >>>>Trees don't destroy CO2, they simply store it and release it later, >>>>either as CO2 or as methane. >>> >>>Things that grow in California must get harvested or will burn. It's >>>been that way for millenia; the natives warned the Spanish about that. >>>When people put out small fires, as we have done for over a century >>>now, we add to the fuel load for giant firestorms. Blame Smokey The >>>Bear. >>> >>>Not only are unnaturally dense forests great fuel, houses are even >>>better. That was obvious in the Oakland and Paradise and Lahaina >>>fires; rows of houses set one another on fire and the trees survived. >>> >>>Pics show forests in California that are six times denser than they >>>were naturally, a century ago. >>> >>>And why do people build insanely flammible houses, right next to other >>>insanely flammible houses? Our cabin in the mountains won't burn, >>>because it would be very hard to ignite, and because we keep the >>>landscape free of stuff that would burn a lot. >>> >>>Let the insurance free market work. >> >>Quite. Be very intersting to see how Pacific Pallisades and its >>neighbouring suburbs look in a few years' time from now. I suspect the >>area will be far less verdant! >>Here's another uncomfortable fact for our Democrat supporters to chew >>on: seems the worst fire was started by an illegal immigrant from >>Mexico with a blowlamp and the 'Kenneth' fire was - again - set by >>another illegal alien. We're constantly told these people enrich our >>culture, but that's hard to swallow when you take a look at all those >>square miles of ruins and ashes. >> >>https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-14/kenneth-fire-person-of-interest-is-a-convicted-felon-and-entered-country-illegally-ice-says >> >>Explain *that* away, Bill. > >The problem isn't ignition sources. There will always be ignition >sources. The problem is the insane flammibility of overgrown forests >and dense flammible housing. > >Lots of the post-fire pics show rows of burned-out houses with green >trees alongside. > >It's crazy when one ember will set fire to a thousand houses. And >fires jumping streets. > >Why do people have houses with flammible roofs and flammible sides and >flammible attics and gutters full of leaves? Why have gutters at all? > >One answer is govenment incompetance, stupid building codes and >subsidized fire insurance. Houses set houses on fire: https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/aea8f5fed828e3195db8f5a4995f983d6a553ad6/0_6_4944_2967/master/4944.jpg?width=1300&dpr=2&s=none&crop=none