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From: Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid>
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On 6 Jan 2025 16:28:50 GMT, Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> wrote:

>On 2025-01-04, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>> Next up: Jan 6
>>
>> I've seen reports of planned demonstrations. Let's hope Biden ensures
>> tight-enough security to prevent any intrusions.
>>
>> And show the Republicans how a /real/ President protects critical
>> events.
>
>Paul, as I'm sure you know from the massive statements of the Jan 6
>Committee (what? They didn't publicize this? How ... strange), the
>House Sergeant-at-Arms, Paul Irving, had primary responsibility for
>the security of all members of Congress.
>
>Irving and the Senate Sergeant-at-Arms are also in charge of the
>Capitol Police, with any request for things like National Guard
>support having to get approved by them before being forwarded.  On
>January 4th, the Capitol Police chief requested the National Guard be
>put on emergency standby but Irving said no, he didn't like the way it
>would look and he would have to get approval from his boss, Nancy Pelosi
>(Democratic Speaker of the House).  That never happened.
>
>Pelosi on January 6th privately took responsibility for the Capitol =
Police
>not having the resources to stop the riot.
>  https://x.com/OversightAdmn/status/1800207258514575730?mx=3D2
>Somehow, that was never investigated or reported by the January 6th =
Committee.
>How...strange.
>
>Security on January 6th was definitely looked at at the highest levels,
>including in meetings with Trump. A transcript of the Chairman of the
>Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley, includes
>https://app.box.com/s/w1mdlicby1o9wrcpfhtdoxi9aljwptos/file/164016391638=
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>    =93[January 3, 2021] The President just says, =91Hey, look at
>    this. There=92s going to be a large amount of protesters here on the
>    6th, make sure that you have sufficient National Guard or Soldiers
>    to make sure it=92s a safe event.=92 And [Acting SecDef] Miller
>    responds by saying, "Hey, we've got a plan, and we've got it
>    covered'"
>This is the first time I've looked at some of the transcripts. They
>really were considering threats, including locations and capabilities
>of people like the Proud Boys in the Joint Chiefs of Staff meetings when
>talking about preparations for January 6th.
>
>So what should a "real" president do, Paul? Do Pelosi's job for her?

If that's what it took.

If a State Governor can call out the National Guard to guard
something, POTUS can do ... a lot more.

And it is strange, is it not, that in all the excuses and wrangling
after Jan 6 2021 not one Republican, not even Donald Trump, /ever/
claimed that he had ordered to US Army to make sure it was a safe
event.

No, we had to find out about from a DOD IG Report -- which some
Republicans are, now that they are aware of it, claiming was an "order
from the CiC of the US Army" and threatening Milley with prosecution.

Because /any/ excuse will do when someone lies like a rug.
--=20
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"