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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: New addition to the list of Relativity Critics/Skeptics Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 12:45:50 +0100 Organization: De Ster Lines: 18 Message-ID: <1qqjdh9.1pen0glzuxdjN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> References: <3dacfdddc9713967b4dd62ef45180f28@www.novabbs.com> <1qqj6wp.1ob5jmyjy6g6dN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <826f3b6ef703d9d1e307600940a6acee@www.novabbs.com> Reply-To: jjlax32@xs4all.nl (J. J. Lodder) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a744bb2381fbd15301f3c5f31b881712"; logging-data="3687961"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18Yx4YIgqRZFxDw2wZSH9A+IJ03O0uOyGQ=" User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.8.5 (ea919cf118) (Mac OS 10.12.6) Cancel-Lock: sha1:kCj9Iz+P7Pqf1aAoUkfGCLIw6O4= Bytes: 1738 LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: > I think non-Euclidean geometry is recognizable as necessarily involving > the reification fallacy, so it is not true. It is necessary to attribute > qualities to abstract space to suppose that parallel lines meet. Contrary > to Tom Roberts, in physics, one cannot use models that involve reification > fallacy because they cannot account for causation. FYI, all this talk of // lines meeting at infinity is obsolete. In modern presentations Euclidean geometry is defined as that geometry in which the Pythagorean theorem holds. The intersection at infinity, or better non-intersetction in the finite can then be proven as a theorem. The two definitions can be shown to be equivalent, Jan