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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Politicaly correct? Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:37:09 +0000 Organization: Poppy Records Lines: 43 Message-ID: <1qr8r9b.4qm3p9am495eN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> References: <nnd$1ceb09f5$22196381@5a8b707a958e0dcc> <ptag0j9b295tu6vp7rg535ij2p4o0djdc8@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net +qgw3mbiD/2R7zCkURq/IgP0dQHI3T8+0puegeEzy8dqmE8rN/ X-Orig-Path: liz Cancel-Lock: sha1:jmj1wyCutGdGR/5XRhB2yjUMfGo= sha256:Ww9cs/mqw1HiO8Gwf7lfVD+ubH3wndGVl4NuHYeEcqg= User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4.6 Bytes: 2604 Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote: > On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 01:04:38 +0100, jim whitby > <mr.spock@spockmnail.net> wrote: > > >This is from an rss feed today. > > > >On Wednesday, the IEEE Computer Society announced to members that, after > >April 1, it would no longer accept papers that include a frequently used > >image of a 1972 Playboy model named Lena Forsén. The so-called "Lenna > >image," (Forsén added an extra "n" to her name in her Playboy appearance > >to aid pronunciation) has been used in image processing research since > >1973 and has attracted criticism for making some women feel unwelcome in > >the field. > > > >Why? What could possibly be demeaning about a (above the shoulders) female > >photo! > > The full photo is ahh ... fuller. > > .<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lena_Fors%C3%A9n> > > And she is famous in image processing. I doubt that the IEEE can > change that. > > War story: Maybe ten years ago, my wife and I took my 15-yo nephew to > Sweden, where I had lived and have friends. We were walking through a > park near Stockholm's City Hall, where the grassy plaza is lined with > many bronze beauties in full glory. My Swedish friend stopped at one > of the beauties and commented that the model for that particular > statue was the mother of one of his childhood friends. Nephew was > floored. There is a tendency to forget that beautiful women are just people like the rest of us. A woman whom I knew as a folk dancer and the mother of two children once said to me: "If you wonder what I look like naked, go and see the statue in xxx Town Hall, I was the model for it. -- ~ Liz Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk