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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: There is no such thing as a Fermi Paradox Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 18:24:12 +0200 Organization: De Ster Lines: 40 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <1qtvarm.1manhpu720sfbN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> References: <uvrv6f$2er10$1@dont-email.me> <1qsex7l.1oe4vr217ylr48N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <v06ss0$17g6e$1@dont-email.me> <meje2j9jdl4q5kiqhvlrr4mavp47plrgcu@4ax.com> <v07j75$1ff4j$1@dont-email.me> <338h2jdad0d67ofpgbeenibt30tl408mlt@4ax.com> <v0bm4r$2fue1$7@dont-email.me> <thu03jl3juo1etb9ffrcmvsim1s64s8hgs@4ax.com> <v0pvia$29i5e$1@dont-email.me> <46943jlja9rqbdop0eppchgms1pgiq7dg3@4ax.com> <v0udco$3d3c8$2@dont-email.me> <dsng3j1k3cmdntgb97464607ipp2f1n4ip@4ax.com> <v19t53$2dhrt$1@dont-email.me> <bb5k3jppkaouu6kvplq1avbet0ocqoisc2@4ax.com> <v1dn6i$3cbi8$2@dont-email.me> <019m3jljb2qvnib87sfnr13i6ndid678k0@4ax.com> <v1gjdj$4nbk$3@dont-email.me> <59du3jppmphirm4kphjb0o26ipq2cakooq@4ax.com> <v1ofhf$26f0c$6@dont-email.me> <lqo34jdgiqrbd45861ked6m6gtbsqn0uot@4ax.com> <v1su5q$3ehg5$1@dont-email.me> <dbq84jpjgnrsaiv22ugpsr24vd1h6b1hih@4ax.com> <v2fhqs$5jv$4@dont-email.me> Reply-To: jjlax32@xs4all.nl (J. J. Lodder) Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="74373"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.8.5 (ea919cf118) (Mac OS 10.12.6) To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:DOVzss3eKj01PFAViZa8zbyPbc0= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 2FFF7229870; Mon, 20 May 2024 12:24:02 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2173822986E for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Mon, 20 May 2024 12:24:00 -0400 (EDT) id 17C0F7D11E; Mon, 20 May 2024 16:24:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBE47D009 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 20 May 2024 16:24:15 +0000 (UTC) id 82AC8DC01A9; Mon, 20 May 2024 18:24:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 18:24:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX19Q614mke8bjb4smdJMzwRqHDfbnJmDqys0xnq0aWpfnQ== Bytes: 3959 JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote: > jillery wrote: > > > The cited article identifies what it means by "The Fermi paradox": > > Not relevant. Regardless of what they mean, there isn't a paradox. > > > The cited article also gives a definition of "paradox": > > ************************************ > > a selfcontradictory statement, or a seemingly logical > > argument that leads to a contradiction, and the > > contradiction suggests that something is wrong. > > ************************************ > > And this is an issue for you? > > > However, the cited article fails to specify the logical basis behind > > Fermi's iconic question. > > Irrelevant. It's not a paradox. > > > So, assuming interstellar travel was feasible, and assuming no > > impediment to exponential expansion, an interstellar civilization > > should occupy the entire Milky Way. > > That's what is known as "An assumption." You can tell by your twice > using the word "Assuming." > > Speaking rhetorically. You've already exposed the fact that you > wouldn't know an assumption if it were humping your leg. So you are stil entirely wrong. 'Fermi's paradox won't go away by renaming it to 'Fermi's question', or perhaps to ''Other people's assumption, Can't you get it through your head that this a real question, and that it isn't a matter of just juggling words? Jan