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Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!snipe.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Security? What "Security"? Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 16:03:56 +0100 Organization: Sn!peCo World Wide Wading Birds Lines: 21 Message-ID: <1r19tuh.12m0a1d14s68lzN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> References: <1r19ri6.xu1j411x9lob6N%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <vebe3v$3mu9k$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: snipeco.1@gmail.com (Sn!pe) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 17:03:57 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: snipe.eternal-september.org; posting-host="b1959e58b13a578da71c237b1aac61cd"; logging-data="3903022"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX199qNywMvx5nSY3aJRic1DA" User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.8.6b1 (ed136d9b90) (Mac OS 10.13.6) Cancel-Lock: sha1:kQpV0CGv5nr+9kkEInqU/+3JO9c= X-Disclaimer: Any advice that I may give is worth only what I paid for it. This article comprises only my personal opinions unless otherwise stated. May contain traces of nuts. X-Tongue-In-Cheek: Always X-Face: 5<x+vv{"AHN,F~/dhf,X*~1zNv[TF/WUe(Uw.*ZOw\P'Ju]C6].T~7Z5cVjV\xTO6&)1#VQ iZ4vFDG X-Copyright: Copyright (c) 2024 Sn!peCo WWWB, All Rights Reserved. This article may be reproduced for the purposes of propagation and personal use only, no commercial use without express permission. X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett; WonK; Large Enid; Lydia Dustbin X-Validate: All genuine Sn!peCo articles contain the header: "Injection-Info: snipe.eternal-september.org;" my registered FQDN. Bytes: 2509 John McCue <jmccue@fuzzball.jmcunx.com> wrote: > followups trimmed to: comp.misc > > In comp.misc Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote: > > My pet rock Gordon asserts that every networked device has > > a backdoor. Therefore, anything viewable in clear on that device > > is insecure and the quality of message encryption is moot. > > Well I would say Gordon could be correct. I say that due to > Intel ME and probably AMD SE: > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine> > (nothing to add, I've just corrected the garbled quotation) -- ^Ï^. Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS My pet rock Gordon eagerly awaits the incipient socialist paradise.