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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: LT Spice looks Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:01:08 +0000 Organization: Poppy Records Lines: 46 Message-ID: <1r30unw.15qgg6g79gpa8N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> References: <lms7jjt1dcip58omf55gasri887067v0ci@4ax.com> <ol99jj971phq17bt1p7ng55a65kbelj10a@4ax.com> <33h9jjhk0tb3vm31r4fatp265q3dt22mem@4ax.com> <vh2jvn$20fa$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <1r307zo.v2hb321oo3t6gN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <1m4cjjpajcu2l7kumc41k3f0a83261lrrj@4ax.com> <1r30r06.jv2sh4c3mktwN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <o96cjjp9n9v54l63f3uijke9mcu3setstp@4ax.com> X-Trace: individual.net TvgP0NNRgqzrdgweppmavAo6iLQHcG2jJMERhrshT+EkWMLAiZ X-Orig-Path: liz Cancel-Lock: sha1:0dCDbcohv/NZGYn0kuUe9n4arw0= sha256:uHkMs4hDt24fyNliaeD33u6QnKEkdoj9IbmWCDRp68M= User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4.6 Bytes: 2704 john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote: > On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:30:32 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid > (Liz Tuddenham) wrote: > > >john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 08:54:02 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid > >> (Liz Tuddenham) wrote: > >> > >> >Edward Rawde <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> > > >> >[...] > >> >> > >> >> If the netlist and PCB layout is correct then why waste time on > >> >> making the schematic look like you want it, only to be told by > >> >> someone else that they would have drawn it completely differently? > >> > > >> >If you were a service engineer with the customer breathing down your > >> >neck, which diagram would you prefer, 'A' or 'B' ? > >> > > >> >http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk/other/CircuitDiagrams.gif > >> > >> They are both wrong. > > > >Do you mean they wouldn't work or do you mean they aren't drawn to some > >arbitrary standard? > > Won't work. The batteries are backwards. It depends which battery convention you use, there doesn't seem to be a standard which is universally accepted. As a footnote, some transistors have enough gain int the reverse direction to make the circuit function, after a fashion, from either polarity. When I worked as a tester on a production line, we were puzzled by the audio stages of some of the receivers working below spec. Everything seemed all right except the high frequency response was below the test limits. Eventually I tracked it down to one of the transistors being put in backwards by the girls making the boards. -- ~ Liz Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk