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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: Repeatably lobbing "projectiles" Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 10:49:33 +0000 Organization: Poppy Records Lines: 42 Message-ID: <1r3f73p.7qcctfx0kmuN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> References: <vhmm2k$hpg1$1@dont-email.me> X-Trace: individual.net jnIifp2sCg6N+RdCfB8zJQ5CaAy9RiIprR5wXqh/zeWC4VBzE/ X-Orig-Path: liz Cancel-Lock: sha1:A1x4LRuJVsBYWG3mBi5cyTr6XcE= sha256:lWzwr9V1ePzUg08z6gj3uWUnYJEBm0zJxEcc4deB8Hg= User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4.6 Bytes: 2440 Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: > We're trying to make a mechanism that will allow for the > REPEATABLE lobbing of small projectiles over short (0-20 ft) > distances. > > We've tried using a constant force with a variable launch angle > (higher for shorter). > > And, a variable force with a constant launch angle (push harder > to throw farther). > > The former seems to be easier to get repeatability. But, still > not great as it constrains HOW you develop the force to be applied. > > A ferrous projectile would probably be easier to control > (think: rail gun) but then the projectile starts to become a safety > issue. > > Now, we're looking at alternate ways of developing that propulsive > force -- e.g., controlled air or water (messy!) pressure. But, > I suspect qualifying the release valves' performance will prove to > be a stumbling point (and, how it changes). > > Any other ideas, given latitude in the design of the projectile? A long cylinder with recesses in its surface into which the projectiles are loaded. It is spun rapidly inside a loose-fitting tube and withdrawn at a steady speed. The end of the tube where the projectiles come out is shaped as a scroll with a lip so that the projectiles become free at a definite angle of rotation. The speed of rotation could be used to control the velocity and rotating the outer tube to vary the position of the lip would change the launch angle. The whole thing could be made with a screw thread traversing mechanism like the very earliest experimental Edison tinfoil phonographs. -- ~ Liz Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk