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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Dutch-like language [OT] Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 11:41:47 +0000 Organization: Poppy Records Lines: 44 Message-ID: <1r41fmk.crf6y01c42hhcN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> References: <1r3zqks.1pae81f187shiuN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vios9f$pkph$1@solani.org> X-Trace: individual.net exU7kcDp3ZJIpSXebshptQCN/8ouFORc91igWGUM0DYAhofdHb X-Orig-Path: liz Cancel-Lock: sha1:CHnLVW9chiU17QxlUaSpbFuJQv0= sha256:5ZhK2fYUgLGk21l6akSi0Ny+tmaSEXK1nL/Thyfq/fI= User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4.6 Bytes: 2562 Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote: > On a sunny day (Tue, 3 Dec 2024 12:59:22 +0000) it happened > liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) wrote in > <1r3zqks.1pae81f187shiuN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>: > > >Last night in the 80-metre band I heard two 'hams' talking. The vowel > >sounds of their voices seemed to be characteristically Dutch (an accent > >like the Groningen area) but the language was completely > >incomprehensible. I listened for several minutes but didn't hear a > >single word I recognised > > > >Do any of our Dutch contributors know of some dialect that is Dutch in > >sound but does not use the standard Dutch language? > > > >[I tried to send this to Jan by e-mail but the address I found for him > >on the Web just bounced.] > > There is the Frisian (Fries) language, spoken west of Groningen > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Frisian_language > And Gronings > And Drents: I have listened to the Wikipedia recordings of Fries and Gronings (there doesn't seem to be one of Drents). Fries doesn't seem to have the frequency of typically Dutch pronunciation of the G and CH sounds that i heard in the QSO. Gronings had those sounds but many of the words are just slightly eccented standard Dutch words which weren't in the QSO. The mystery remains, so if I hear that language again, I shall have to record it. > Have not listened to 80 meter for a long time, much local noise here. It was like that here until I put a really good (3-wire inductive) mains filter right against the input to the receiver and then solidly earthed the receiver chassis with an independent earthing system of heavy wire soldered to spaced earth rods, using a blowlamp. -- ~ Liz Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk