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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Battery (SLA) modeling Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:54:44 +0000 Organization: Poppy Records Lines: 26 Message-ID: <1r4ih4v.151b2dlgylpneN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> References: <vjgltr$394qj$1@dont-email.me> X-Trace: individual.net /KO6e86Ag7+eEY7Y/3LJBgMpwkOOnNzOHTcmTItCCHd5yDQtw8 X-Orig-Path: liz Cancel-Lock: sha1:iS0WTe5XB2rFpTqXD7muRIlEO0Y= sha256:m8zPNxNPMtT25gACQRjCjbV27k25BwvdfJpQwZZAW6g= User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4.6 Bytes: 1822 Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: > At a fixed time and temperature, is it safe to model a battery as a > fixed voltage source behind a series resistance? Possibly, additionally, > a parallel RC to cover transients? > > In particular, does the model need to change based on whether the > battery is being charged or discharged? (i.e., to estimate that > series resistance) Design for the worst possible series resistance and then some. I have been caught out by that a couple of times. Screaming and apparently untraceable audio instability in the middle of doing the P.A. for a public event is highly embarassing. ("Yes, we put in a new battery - oh no, someone must have put the old one back in the box with the others - terribly sorry!") Also, whatever the manufacturers clain for the battery capacity, design for half that amount. Batteries don't last forever but your customers will assume they do and won't want to change them until they are well below half capacity. -- ~ Liz Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk