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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: big L Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2024 22:01:36 +0000 Organization: Poppy Records Lines: 45 Message-ID: <1r4xrlo.18q10554l6dxvN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> References: <h943mj51gmv13o1vvlndmhbff3lc69t5kv@4ax.com> <58qdmjp6j3hjtmrhf39mc6guoe5d1iovdo@4ax.com> <2hsdmjtb6j44em5licvus8t17oon1sgrai@4ax.com> <726emjhsf30ife01p321iv1j6ndihodtc4@4ax.com> <3faemjtve5hvghau2up1stdid1u3bq84gd@4ax.com> X-Trace: individual.net OnahyEtcUYgIp5zOv9lpDAVl8RT+l8l4r5WN86W5lKQ9Dt467R X-Orig-Path: liz Cancel-Lock: sha1:1LUo+xwj0sw6P06F+Y7jYcKzPrE= sha256:pA4lhD2vT+Hil337kJsKW6CUDm7793Tc9bZrD/5d6Pc= User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4.6 Bytes: 2664 Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote: > On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 11:35:54 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote: > > >On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 16:53:07 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> > >wrote: > > > >>On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 11:16:18 -0500, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote: > >> > >>>On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 06:58:32 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>>What's the biggest inductor, the most Henries, that you know of? I > >>>>seem to recall some audio transformer that was something like 100 H. > >>> > >>>The SAFT/Alcatel plant in Scarborough used to have > >>>largish inductors for loading. Air-cored - ~10ft > >>>on a side. > >>> > >>>Your watch would stop, if you were too close. > >>> > >>>Large L ? Who needs it? > >> > >>In the olde days we used to have audio output transformers for > >>impedance matching purposes, but modern amps don't seem to need 'em. > > > >And long ago tubes were expensive so it made sense to get voltage gain > >from interstage transformers. > > Indeed. And that's just one aspect of it. The designers in the early > stage of toob development deserve huge respect for the performance > they were able to wring out of a single stage - and all just to save > the hard-pressed consumer back in the day a few sheckles. Have a look at: <http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk/httpdocs/other/AMC5.pdf> as an example of incredibly efficient design. It took the output from a ribbon mic and raised it to 0dBm line level. By using a mixture of current and voltage feedback, it terminated the mic correctly without the need for a terminating resistor, which would have wasted signal power and generated Johnson noise. -- ~ Liz Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk