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From: liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham)
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Subject: Re: OT: Cracking Speech by JDV!
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:50:19 +0000
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Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

> On 16/02/2025 11:48 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
> > Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 16/02/2025 6:41 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 10:53:37 -0700, Don Y
> >>> <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2/15/2025 3:07 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >>>> So, if he was afraid of having a NATO Ukraine on his border, he
> >>>> hasn't yet realized what a threat a re-ARMED Europe would pose in
> >>>> that same geographical position.  Trump's trash talking may result
> >>>> in a EUTO (without the US) that feels empowered to push back on
> >>>> future issues without "consent" from the US.
> >>>
> >>> Getting Europe's military up to the job would take at least a decade.
> >>> But there's no money available. Germany - once the economic powerhouse
> >>> of the continent - is on its knees and France likewise. And even if it
> >>> could be afforded - which it can't - we now know Putin can call upon
> >>> China and N. Korea, so if push ever came to shove, continental Europe
> >>> would be toast.
> >>
> >> The US Abrahams tank relies on a German gun and UK (Chobham) armour.
> > 
> > But the Americans won't have to fight if Trump has his way.  He thinks
> > he can just keep Putin happy by feeding him European countries,
> > one-by-one.
> 
> NATO exists so that he can't do that. An attack on one NATO member is an
> attack on all of them. Ukraine is a not a member of NATO (and Putin 
> doesn't want it to join).

A flourish of the pen is all it needs to destroy that.  Trunp has pulled
out of other alliances when it suits him, why not this one?


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