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From: snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
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Subject: Re: Schneier, Data and Goliath: no hope for privacy
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 22:12:00 +0000
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Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote:
> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> > My dream is that people will start to use small self-hosted,
> > end-to-end encrypted chat services, so that the laws forbidding
> > encryption become meaningless.
> >
>
> That's my idea, too. I don't think the USENET is actually a perfect
> project. I think communities should not too large. So I think we
> should build more NNTP servers to be used by small communities. And
> then these servers should have a standard API so that an index could be
> created somewhere where people can discover communities.
>
> Imagine how many closed NNTP servers, mailing lists are out there and
> nobody knows.
[...]
Closed NNTP newsservers are not Usenet, just local proprietary news.
They're operated by a server owner who has the power of booting users
off his server if he doesn't like their opinions. Those users have no
alternative server to use for those local groups so they've effectively
been censored, exactly like web forums with a cadre of moderators.
With Usenet there are many servers, each carrying a subset of groups
from the full group list. If a server operator TOSes a user they're at
liberty to use another service and still access their groups uncensored.
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