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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Quarter-wave whip earth plane Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 15:33:33 +0000 Organization: Poppy Records Lines: 28 Message-ID: <1r8zjnr.1exnyup1tqp24zN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> X-Trace: individual.net h/Q7AzhF8MN0ww19JHQKygEnG/md1yQFvMWa+TLiu3Ct/QHnH8 X-Orig-Path: liz Cancel-Lock: sha1:oUNqkGudAOTEjev7+8aXqaI+xlw= sha256:iCuYRE09oKugUm30H6JuIrymGwro5grBU3w2lsNFkEA= User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.4.6 Bytes: 2121 I've made a magnetic base for a quarter wave whip aerial; different length rods can be screwed onto it for the 2-metre and 4-metre bands and there is a sliding joint which allows a degree of length adjustment. There are three ring magnets bolted to the underside of a 200mm diameter steel plate with thin polythene discs, to protect the paintwork, between the magnets and the roof of the van on which it will be used. The total thickness of the polythene discs, the ceramic magnets and their back plates is enough to raise the underside of the steel plate about 11mm above the roof of the van. The braid of the co-ax feeder is soldered to a tag on the steel plate, but of course this is not in direct contact with the metal of the van roof which forms the 'infinite' ground plane. The capacitance between the steel plate and the van roof is about 120 pf, which has a reactance of about 18 ohms at 72 Mc/s and half as much at 145 Mc/s. To balance the feed point I have inserted a 120pf capacitor between the centre conductor of the co-ax and the connection to the rod elements. Is this going to cause a shift in resonance that can be corrected by adjusting the length of the elements (one of which is 'infinite' anyway) or is it liable to upset everything. if the latter, is there a solution that doesn't involve butchering the van roof? -- ~ Liz Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk