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From: snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 19:59:51 +0000
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CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

> On 2025-03-24 09:39, Sn!pe wrote:
> > CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> > 
> > [I wrote]
> >>> I could give you my entire PC history from MS DOS 2.4 in 1984 via 'Doze
> >>> 3.0 to NT4, then Mandrake Linux for several years before I saw the
> >>> light, put away my screwdrivers and switched to macOS 10.3 "Panther".
> >>> I've stuck with Macs ever since; they just *work*, you know?
> >>>
> >>> I could go on but it would be even boring than the above.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I recall having a Mac running X.1.5 and then x.2 at a time when decent
> >> browsers for that operating system didn't exist. It was Internet
> >> Explorer or some independent browser whose name I can't remember.
> >> Eventually, Apple released Safari and made things a little better. I
> >> don't believe that even Firefox was around at the time. This was
> >> definitely a period when the Mac didn't "just work."
> >>
> > 
> > I can't speak to that, I began with Macs at OS X 10.3 "Panther".
> > I had no difficulties with that at all.
> > 
> > I suppose you might equate Mac OS X 10.1 and 10.2 with
> > Windoze 1 and 2.  I imagine that you will remember what
> > early 'Doze was like. . .
> > 
> > What was early Linux like?
> 
> I started with 10.1.5, so I couldn't really tell you if earlier versions
> were as slow as people claimed. However, on the machine I used, a g3 
> 600MHz iBook, MacOS 9.2.2 was definitely a lot more fun to use than OS
> X. It was too bad that it wasn't getting updates anymore. I just recall
> struggling to find a browser which supported all of what most websites
> used whether it was Java or some other technology. It was truly 
> miserable until Safari came out. I don't recall whether Firefox came out
> before or after, but I was definitely not aware of its existence until I
> moved back to PCs later.
> 
> As for early Linux, I can only tell you what it was like when I 
> installed Slackware through floppies at the very beginning. I only had
> an old IBM PS/1 monitor to use it, so I couldn't get into the GUI at all
> since I didn't know the vertical or horizontal refresh rates for that
> piece of crap. When I went back to Linux around 1998, things were much
> better but there was no built-in PPPoE software to connect to my ISP at
> the time. If you didn't happen to have rp-pppoe lying around on a 
> floppy, you were screwed. I also recall that I found KDE a lot better
> than the rest of the GUIs at the time, but I still found it fairly 
> clunky. Windows 95/98 wasn't great, but it was at least better than what
> Linux was offering for environments. I mostly ignored Linux after that
> since Windows 2000 and XP were stellar, though I vowed to only use Linux
> once the first Ubuntu released. It was definitely better than every 
> other Linux available at the time, but it still didn't feel like a 
> complete replacement for Windows.
> 
> I imagine that you don't really care about the history I just wrote 
> about above, but it felt good to write about it. My biggest memory was
> how open-source, AbiWord to be exact, saved my ass when I needed 
> something to write a university paper.
>

It was good to read about it, too.  It isn't as though I have anything
urgent scheduled for today...  

Anyway, I'm not here as an advocate for Apple; if it wasn't for laughing
boy being so haughty and superior about me using legacy software, 
I probably wouldn't have posted.  Whatever, it's filled a few idle
moments so it's all good.

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