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From: Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Toronto police urge car owners to make things easy for car
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 13:39:09 -0400
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 10:06:30 -0700
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

> In article <20240314105819.00005f2b@example.com>,
>  Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 21:28:40 -0700
> > BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > In article <20240313234633.00004310@example.com>,
> > >  Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > Car theft is rampant in Toronto these days. It's gotten so bad
> > > > that thieves are using crowbars and similar tools to break into
> > > > people's homes so that they can access the keys to the vehicles
> > > > they are trying to steal.    
> > > 
> > > Oh, that would be sweet. My only conundrum would be whether to use
> > > the 9mm or the .357. (The shotgun would make too much of a mess.)
> > >  
> > 
> > I'm pretty sure we haven't been allowed to own handguns in many
> > years now. I think there may be an exception for target shooters
> > though so we may be about to see a huge upswing in people joining
> > shooting clubs....
> > 
> > I think we can still own shotguns though so it will be interesting
> > to see if there is a major surge in shotgun purchases. If that
> > happens, I expect that to be followed by some very high profile
> > arrests of homeowners who use them to defend their cars  
> 
> You don't use it to defend your car. You use it to defend yourself
> when the shitbag breaks into your home looking for car keys.
> 
We're on the same page, despite my poor phrasing. I was trying to say
that people could protect their cars from being stolen by shooting
people who broke into the house to steal the keys. Although the thieves
seem to have lots of electronic tools to break into your vehicle
without the keys. 

> > and prosecutions by judicial activists to "send a message" that they
> > highly disapprove of people shooting other people to protect their
> > property.  
> 
> > > > I know Americans will be dumbfounded by this and not understand
> > > > why we don't do the obvious thing and buy guns to defend what's
> > > > ours but we've let Trudeau make it so much harder to get a gun
> > > > than it already was that it's almost unthinkable now.    
> > > 
> > > Y'all should put your car keys in a bear trap designed as a key 
> > > organizer. When the thief reaches in for the key, SNAP!  
> > 
> > I like that idea but it might not go over really well if one of your
> > clumsier family members inadvertently triggered it and lost a
> > hand....
> > 
> > I'm thinking of an audio deterrent: anyone approaching the door
> > gets to hear a recording of a shotgun being racked. Of course, that
> > assumes the visitor isn't wearing ear buds or whatnot and actually
> > knows what a shotgun being racked sounds like. (I've only heard
> > that sound in movies, never in real life.) 
> > 
> > Of course the real solution to the problem is putting in more
> > sensible politicians and judges and purging the police of the
> > people who think the solution to crime is encouraging more of it.  
> 
> Sounds like the only practical solution at this point is good old 
> fashioned Charles Bronson-like vigilante justice. It actually
> wouldn't even be vigilante at this point considering that your
> government has abandoned you.

A lot of us would cheer on Charles Bronson 2.0 at this point. Although
I am sure that the "progressives" would be utterly horrified - and
there are lots of them in Toronto. I think every single one of the 32
Toronto ridings voted Liberal in the last federal election, although
that is eroding somewhat in recent polling. I expect that this is how
Comrade Olivia Chow got elected mayor when John Tory stepped down over
his extra-marital affair. Here's hoping the car thievery and the police
response to it is going to serve as a vital reality check and wake them
the fuck up!

-- 
Rhino