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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 07:53:42 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 15 Message-ID: <20240403075342.00006c15@gmail.com> References: <uu54la$3su5b$6@dont-email.me> <uu636l$7haj$1@dont-email.me> <20240329084454.0000090f@gmail.com> <uu6om5$cmv8$1@dont-email.me> <20240329101248.556@kylheku.com> <uu6t9h$dq4d$1@dont-email.me> <20240329104716.777@kylheku.com> <uu8p02$uebm$1@dont-email.me> <20240330112105.553@kylheku.com> <uudrfg$2cskm$1@dont-email.me> <87r0fp8lab.fsf@tudado.org> <uuehdj$2hshe$1@dont-email.me> <87wmpg7gpg.fsf@tudado.org> <LISP-20240402085115@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <LISP-20240402091729@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <wrap-20240402092558@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <uui7hf$3gona$1@dont-email.me> <uuj1o5$3pvnq$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 14:53:44 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1a7f1578fe464693513212e24e75ad17"; logging-data="4162770"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/oJrSgm8ftkdm3KENX6lrbXkz39xaGb9E=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:SE78t7rt3Q8k8+DMbx7C3f+nPFA= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.2.0 (GTK 3.24.38; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 2315 On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 09:50:28 +0200 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote: > On 03/04/2024 02:23, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > > It=E2=80=99s bloody horrible Python even when wrapped correctly. I think > > Python=E2=80=99s version of the conditional expression is a complete > > abortion.=20 > That's probably the reason almost no one uses it. That post is the=20 > first time I have ever seen conditional expressions outside of a > brief mention in a tutorial on Python conditionals showing how to > write normal conditionals in the language. I think Python stole this > one from Perl. It's a real "Doc, it hurts when I do this!" situation.