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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Threads across programming languages Date: Sat, 4 May 2024 22:04:37 +0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <20240504220437.00002b91@yahoo.com> References: <GIL-20240429161553@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <v0ogum$1rc5n$1@dont-email.me> <v0ovvl$1ur12$4@dont-email.me> <v0p06i$1uq6q$5@dont-email.me> <v0shti$2vrco$2@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v0spsh$31ds4$3@dont-email.me> <v0stic$325kv$3@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v0svtn$32o8h$1@dont-email.me> <v0t091$32qj6$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v0u90h$3c1r5$4@dont-email.me> <v0v7rf$3lu04$1@dont-email.me> <v0v8u3$3m7rm$1@dont-email.me> <v10t0v$20cs$1@dont-email.me> <v116q4$4at1$1@dont-email.me> <v119bu$4pfa$1@dont-email.me> <v127i4$ej9d$1@dont-email.me> <20240503180533.000017ff@yahoo.com> <v12vb0$ju1r$2@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <20240503184754.00006997@yahoo.com> <v13rto$q5b4$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 04 May 2024 21:04:41 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1cf2ca68997dbbf185559a65770f6720"; logging-data="1427252"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+2cNFe3BVAdjcbw8bk3LOPRKYkCy1EYOk=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:nUe0WiEF5wrxsWjOTBRalhqxKDA= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.1.1 (GTK 3.24.34; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 3023 On Sat, 4 May 2024 00:27:53 +0100 bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote: > On 03/05/2024 16:47, Michael S wrote: > > On Fri, 3 May 2024 17:20:00 +0200 > > Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Am 03.05.2024 um 17:05 schrieb Michael S: > >> > >>> A typical scenario is that you started you python program while > >>> thinking that it wouldn't e CPU-intensive. And then it grew and > >>> became CPU-intensive. > >>> That's actually a good case, because it means that your program is > >>> used and is doing something worthwhile. > >> > >> I don't think it makes a big difference if Python has a GIL or > >> not since it is interpreted and extremely slow with that anyway. > >> > > > > 64 times faster than slow wouldn't be fast, but could be acceptable. > > And 64 HW threads nowadays is almost low-end server, I have one at > > work, just in case. > > Also, I don't see why in the future Python could not be JITted. > > Javascript was also considered slow 15-20 years ago, now it's pretty > > fast. > > But then, my knowledge of Python is very shallow, Possibly, it's not > > JITted yet because of fundamental reasons rather than due to lack of > > demand. > > > > PyPy has been around for many years. I see. So, why PyPy didn't replace interpreter as a default engine?