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Paul wrote:
> Robert Woodward wrote:

<snip>

>>On the other hand, Roger Bacon lived in the 13th century
>>(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Bacon).
>
> Yes he did. But he wasn't refurbished as a scientist, according to the
> article you cite, until the 19th century. Before that, he was a
> philosopher with a pragmatic bent. Also a wizard.
>
> He is credited with discovering the importance of empirical testing
> when his results differed from Aristotle. I should note that differing
> from Aristotle got Galileo in a spot of trouble a few centuries later.
> And that Copernicus published his heliocentric system only after he
> was safely dead (even the Holy Office can't torture you if you are
> dead)

Careful there. Back in the day, England's Holy Office conceivably could
continue to carve-up a corpse. For instance, if the torture theatre
audience started to become unruly because their entertainment ended too
soon.

    It was known then as 'Godly butchery' or 'three deaths'. Today, we
    recognise the gruesome method of execution, /unique to England/,
    that is seemingly synonymous with the medieval period as being
    hanged, drawn and quartered.

<https://www.historyextra.com/period/medieval/hanging-drawing-quartering-what-why-treason-disembowelment/>

Danke,

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