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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don <g@crcomp.net> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: King Laurin? Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 14:08:34 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 58 Message-ID: <20240512d@crcomp.net> References: <20221007a@crcomp.net> <thqnjf$1al4$4@gioia.aioe.org> <20221009b@crcomp.net> <20240505b@crcomp.net> <ha0i3jh59nfjklq3cn4v8n39b7aukoacak@4ax.com> <20240505c@crcomp.net> <hqik3jt7g5jd338rbqj284sdp5kvlpr79r@4ax.com> <robertaw-5E1278.09595807052024@news.individual.net> <qe5n3j1ueuk70vv040tgbp7kke1h2arcro@4ax.com> <20240508a@crcomp.net> <flpo3jldullrjddc5h6r18iua35hoq2q5o@jwbrown.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8stipulation Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 16:08:34 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="00d2291ce83769634d4cff524fb66025"; logging-data="2914842"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/rQIInR1DFa35zqtTkkkft" Cancel-Lock: sha1:q7e3IxorjFLuHomYxY15TUQ3FDU= Bytes: 3496 Jerry Brown wrote: > Don wrote: > > <snip> > >> It was known then as 'Godly butchery' or 'three deaths'. Today, we >> recognise the gruesome method of execution, /unique to England/, >> that is seemingly synonymous with the medieval period as being >> hanged, drawn and quartered. >> >><https://www.historyextra.com/period/medieval/hanging-drawing-quartering-what-why-treason-disembowelment/> > > "Pennyworth" the spinoff from "Gotham" was set in alternate 60s UK in > which hanging, drawing and quartering is broadcast live on TV from the > Tower of London. I recall several questions on the message boards at > the time which thought that this was the case in the real UK! > > There are also gibbets on the streets of Westminster (which also > wasn't the case in the real world). > > AFAIC this show managed to beat "Game of Thrones" for gore (I don't > watch any of the multiplicity of zombie shows, which may hold the top > ranking). Gore's not for me, at least not on a superficial level. It's deeper sociological implications intrigue me: Sociological propaganda expresses itself in many different ways - in advertising, in the movies (commercial and non- political films), in technology in general, in education, in the /Reader's Digest/; and in social work, case work, and settlement houses. All of these influences are in basic accord with each other and lead spontaneously in the same direction; one hesitates to call all this propaganda. _Propaganda - The Formation of Men's Attitudes_ (Ellul) # # # The groupthink enshrined in law as The Treason Act of 1351 shares some similarities with this thread's expected, yet unexpected (as TV viewers see it), Spanish Inquisition: So barbaric was the form of execution that it could only be carried out on men, as it was deemed indecent to expose a woman’s body to such treatment. A woman convicted of treason would instead be beheaded or burned at the stake. (Ibid) Danke, -- Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. https://crcomp.net/reviews.php telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. Walk humbly with thy God. tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' Make 1984 fiction again.