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On Mon, 27 May 2024 11:12:32 +0200
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Sun, 26 May 2024, WolfFan wrote:
> 
> > On May 26, 2024, D wrote
> > (in article<e9e47a95-a341-04a3-4127-ef741c483bf8@example.net>):
> >
> >>
> >> On Sat, 25 May 2024, Bernard Peek wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2024-05-25, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ehh incorrect. I lived there and detected no such thing. Bird-flu isn't
> >>>> even a topic in the news and no one where I live talks about it.
> >>>
> >>> It's been found in cattle in several parts of the US and there have been two
> >>> cases of transmission from cattle to people. So far no cases of
> >>> person-to-person transmission.
> >>
> >> 2 out of 8 billion. I am so scared! ;) Call me again if we reach one in
> >> two and until then, I won't be bothered.
> >>
> >> Corona, by the way, was about as dangerous for my age group as driving a
> >> car. That figure came from the government, so all hysteria was just
> >> nonsense.
> >
> > one of my nieces died of covid. She was 25. She died before there were any
> > vaccines.
> 
> Ok. Sad, but there are people who die of bananas, and we don't ban 
> bananas. In that age group, corona was about as dangerous as driving a 
> car, so not justifiable to close down the world for a flu.
> 
> > None, zero, of the rest of the family, and there’s a LOT of us, had any
> > problems whatsoever with the vaccine.
> 
> I've heard of many who had problems with vaccines. Also note the double 
> standard. Anyone who died 30 days after corona was a corona victim. If 
> this would have been applied to the vaccines, you'd see even higher death 
> rates.
> 
> > Note that I do not work for any government. I was one of the driving forces
> > behind the vaccination policy at work: no vaccine? Cool. Stay out of the
> > building. If you can remote work, carry on. If you can’t, either get
> 
> In my company we had the reverse. If you're vaccinated, stay at home. On 
> the other hand, I Don't hire pro-government hysterical corona people, so 
> it was pretty much a non-issue. And no one died, which shows that unless 
> you're old, it was mostly psychosomatic.
> 

So you didn't have any vulnerable older relatives? lucky you to have the
luxury of being dismissive of mass vaccination and it's effectiveness. 

You seem not to care much for humanity overall.

> > vaccinated or get another job. This is a right to work state, we can fire you
> 
> Let me correct that... let the government foricbly inject you, or else we 
> let you starve.
> 
> That is similar policies to nazi-germany and the soviet union, just so you 
> know.
> 
Feh.

> If the vaccines work, there's no need to be afraid of un-vaccinated, or if 
> you are, you are basically admitting that the vaccines don't work, and 
> then they are just a charade.
> 
Please attend class Logic 101.

 
> > for any reason we want. (Ron DeSatan tried to set things up so that idiots
> > couldn’t, officially, be fired for not getting a vaccination; however, the
> > kind of idiot who refused to vacvinate usually had done something in the past
> > which we could have fired him for but didn’t. Officially, that’s why he
> > was fired, and we have the paperwork going back to before the pandemic to
> > prove it. Kiss my ass, DeSatan.)
> >
> > You’re perfectly free to not get vaccinated. You’re not free to not get
> > vaccinated and work here.
> 
> Likewise and reverse. No work for you if you are vaccinated at my company. 
> And this is why a libertarian world is the only way to peace.
> 
> Also note the irony, that in my world you are free to vaccinate yourself 
> if you want, do heavy drugs etc. but in your world, I must subject myself 
> to medical experiments to be able to participate.
> 
> I think that's a pretty authoritarian and sh*tty world view, but I'm glad 
> that you are not the president and I'm glad that the legal system is so 
> full of loop holes that I was able to travel without a mask and meet the 
> people I could after a bit of legal threatening and arguing. =)
> 
> > Perhaps those who passed the Right To Work laws (hint: not Democrats) should
> > have thought things through before ramming the laws through.
> >>
> >>
> >> I say, protect the old if they want it and let the rest live their lives
> >> as normal, which is what eventually sweden did, which was proven to be the
> >> right way. Not limiting peoples freedoms and becoming authoritarian.
> >
> > public health is about the public im general. Not you specifically.
> 
> I don't agree. All there is is individuals, and I have full autonomy and 
> control of my body and no one else. I do not recognize any laws that claim 
> otherwise.
> 
> > Both my parents were epidemiologists in Africa, the Caribbean, and Latin
> > America. I got to see public health processes up close while growing up.
> > Those who don’t get vaccinated are not welcome near me or any of my family.
> 
> Doubt they would ever want to meet you or your family. Btw, do you never 
> fly or move around in public? I can promise you that there's plenty of 
> non-vaccinated people, so did you realize you could die by going outside 
> your house?
> 
> > Period. Yes, I feel that strongly about it. Yes, I have thrown anti-vax
> > idiots bodily out of my house over this; one idiot went and complained to the
> > cops, who advised him that his right to be an idiot ended at my front door.
> > Be an idiot OUTSIDE. You will be ejected, physically if necessary, if you
> > come inside. This is also a Castle Doctrine state; guess who passed _those_
> > laws.
> 
> Good for you.
> 
> >>
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> But politicians I'm sure are pining for that power the corona psychosis
> >>>> gave them, so I'm certain they try hard to push the paranoia.
> >>>
> >>> I hope they succeed. Americans seem to consistently choose the wrong things
> >>> to be paranoid about. Covid was a dress-rehearsal that could have gone a lot
> >>> worse. It doesn't appear that the politicians learned anything from it.
> >>>
> >>> Evidently neither did the antivaxxers.
> >>
> >> Well, they did learn how to build up an authoritarian society and remove
> >> all freedoms, and unless the people wake up, it will be authoritarianism
> >> all the way.
> >>
> >> Personally my wifes family were harassing me about the vaccines, but, one
> >> of their friends died due to the vaccine, and then I was transformed from
> >> villain to hero, and they stopped taking it. So that was a huge victory!
> >>
> >> I also found some nice loop holes in the law that enabled me to travel
> >> mask free during all of corona, which was another win, and secretly many
> >> people came up to me asking how I did it.
> >>
> >> So the positive is that it is possible to fight the good fight of freedom.
> >> So my advice to you is to seek help for your hypochondria, it lowers your
> >> quality of life. Trust me, there is nothing to be worried about, and the
> >> body takes care of 99% of all deseases itself.
> >
> > Bullshit. Real world epidemiology says different. Smallpox, mumps, and
> > measeles conquered the Western Hemisphere for the white man. Yellow fever
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