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Subject: Re: C23 thoughts and opinions
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On Sat, 01 Jun 2024 01:27:41 GMT
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:

> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
> >On 5/26/2024 6:23 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:  
> >> Am 26.05.2024 um 09:13 schrieb jak:
> >>   
> >>> About this I only agree partially because it depends a lot on the
> >>> context in which it is used. Moreover, I would not know how to
> >>> indicate an optimal programming language for all seasons.  
> >> 
> >> C++ is in almost any case the better C.
> >>   
> >>> What you describe is the greatest inconvenience of c++. To make
> >>> only one example, when they decided to rewrite the FB platform to
> >>> accelerate it, they thought of migrating from php to c++ and they
> >>> had a collapse of the staff suitable for work, so they thought of
> >>> relying a compiler that translated the php into c++ and many of
> >>> the new languages were born to try to remedy hits complexity.  
> >> 
> >> C++ is the wrong language for web applications.
> >> I like Java more for that.  
> >
> >C++ is the wrong language for real time apps.   
> 
> That's an incorrect statement.
> 
> > No memory allocation allowed.  
> 
> It is trivially easy to write C++ code that doesn't
> allocate memory dynamically.
> 
> >
> >I use C++ for my server side apps on my webserver.  Works great.  
> 
> I use C++ for operating systems (you can't get more real-time
> than that)

Engines control is FAR more real-time that OS, to list just one example
out of many.
Of course, nowadays most of these things are no longer done on
general-purpose CPUs or even MCUs.


> and bare-metal hypervisors.

It is hard to believe that you don't have at least one co-worker that
is begging to switch all new development to C approximately every week.
And couple of folks that beg for Rust.