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Subject: Re: Rant Men's Clothes
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:16:42 -0400
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On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:37:31 -0400
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:29:24 -0400, Rhino
> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 23:19:46 -0000 (UTC)
> >"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> >  
> >> I am going to rant. I went to a national department store to buy
> >> button down shirts, which I really needed. A year ago, I'd bought
> >> several shirts. They were driving me nuts because only one of the
> >> shirts had a pocket.
> >> 
> >> I went through all of the shirts for sale in my size. Not a single
> >> shirt had a pocket. Who decreed that men's shirts no longer have
> >> pockets?
> >>   
> >Some "fashion" guru has apparently decreed that shirts with pockets
> >are unfashionable and the manufacturers have apparently kowtowed to
> >this dictat. I'd say I was surprised but I'm not. It's how they've
> >rolled for years. I've been trying to find a plain T-shirt with a
> >chest pocket for at least a couple of years but anytime I go to a
> >store, there are none to be had. Mind you, I haven't checked every
> >store or catalogue so maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places....
> > 
> 
> It exists on Amazon. I've bought good quality t-shirts with the chest
> pocket.
> 
That's good to hear. I'll have to order some if I can find something
plain; I don't want clothes adorned with giant logos for manufacturers. 

> >> Then the matter of shoes. I need another pair of gym shoes/running
> >> shoes that fit. I wear them as my regular walking shoe. I have a
> >> weird shoe size, very long and very narrow.
> >> 
> >> We have the men's shoe comspiracy in which manufacturers inflate
> >> the shoe size and ignore the shoe size standard.
> >> 
> >> I saw a large number of shoes offered in my nominal size, so I
> >> knew it was pointless to try them on. They'd be too small.
> >> 
> >> I bought a pair that was nominally a half size larger. It was too
> >> short.
> >> 
> >> The pair I bought that was 2 1/2 sizes larger than my nominal shoe
> >> size wasn't too short.
> >>   
> >Shoes are another peeve for me. That started years ago when I tried
> >to replace a pair of slippers that had worn out. I couldn't find a
> >single pair in the mall store I visited and asked one of the staff
> >about it. He told me they only carried slippers at Christmas time
> >because that was the only time they sold (or maybe only sold in
> >significant numbers). I still find that baffling because I used to
> >wear them year round and wouldn't want to wait until Christmas to
> >replace a worn-out pair.   
> 
> Which is one reason people are switching to buying most items through
> the Internet.
>
I strongly prefer to try a pair of shoes before I buy it. I can picture
weeks of waiting for packages, trying things on, finding them
unsatisfactory and sending them back before I finally find something
suitable. No thank you!
 
> >As for size, I finally found a  good shoe store a few years back, the
> >kind that actually measured your feet and made sure you got into
> >shoes that fit; the places I'd been going to for many previous years
> >were all basically self-serve places where you tried things on and
> >settled for whatever you found satisfactory, then took it to the
> >cashier to ring it up. So I bought two very good pairs of shoes at
> >this newly-discovered store, dress shoes and a pair of sneakers. I
> >paid more than I was used to but both were on the sale table at
> >significant discounts so I could have done much worse. Both have
> >been excellent shoes. I don't wear dress shoes often so those will
> >probably last the rest of my life. I wear the sneakers all the time
> >and expect they'll last a few more years yet. 
> >
> >I think you need to find a shoe store that still measures your feet
> >and where the staff still knows more about shoes than how to operate
> >the cash register. I think those places are increasingly rare but I
> >have to imagine a city as big as Chicago still has one or two.
> >(Unfortunately, the one I found has since closed down because the
> >owner retired.) 
> >  
> >> This is more evidence that the world has moved on from me and I
> >> literally do not fit in. I should just walk to the horizon and fall
> >> off the edge.  
> >
> >That's probably a bit drastic ;-) Try finding different stores to buy
> >shirts and shoes!   



-- 
Rhino