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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Architectural implications of locate mode I/O and channels Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:00:27 +0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 16 Message-ID: <20240703160027.00004663@yahoo.com> References: <v61jeh$k6d$1@gal.iecc.com> <v61oc8$1pf3p$1@dont-email.me> <v62fmt$nao$1@gal.iecc.com> <2024Jul3.075207@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <9JbhO.1373$ymwc.223@fx02.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2024 15:00:31 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="97472cbdcdeeff421cb8fb1c89ea1198"; logging-data="2302000"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18OJQ2NDvNGeRLczk30q/fj1OwoUm0cNg8=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:sKhMMXuFSA2TNFmN9eMLk1UO4Cg= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.1.1 (GTK 3.24.34; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 1602 On Wed, 03 Jul 2024 08:44:01 -0400 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> wrote: > > An alternative is each device has its own DMA controller > which is just a couple of counters. > The main cost is not counters, but bus mastering logic. For PCI it was non-trivial cost even as late as year 2000. For example, PLX PCI to local bus bridges with bus mastering capability, like PCI 9080 costed non-trivially more than slave-only 9060.