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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC6600 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 12:38:21 +0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <20240723123821.000046b2@yahoo.com> References: <v7fss8$3f712$1@dont-email.me> <v7fuqu$3fg81$2@dont-email.me> <2k3q9j1lqngjsfmts49q6l3825nipf91rq@4ax.com> <v7k0gm$8pms$13@dont-email.me> <a11cff7fe912529a0a7962163afe43d8@www.novabbs.org> <v7k7ok$a7tn$5@dont-email.me> <lg6gtgFlcf1U1@mid.individual.net> <20240722130827.00004fea@yahoo.com> <v7mt0t$se4i$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 11:37:53 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="13ef830bf2b3f0c9f0d6691a9de09cf2"; logging-data="1214705"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/P9bVH/PoxmxislDzIRKtJvWPjO4cp1CE=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:7DdUuLkbo+Kb0oxk1fjbc/9T4MQ= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.19.1 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 2591 On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 00:20:46 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 13:08:27 +0300, Michael S wrote: > > > At the end, the influence of 6600 on computers we use today is > > close to zero. > > He pioneered pipelining It (6600), not he (Seymour). No, it didn't. If instead of 'it' we'd talk about 'he' then the first Cray-Thornton pipelined computer is 7600. But by then pipelining was hardly new. 7600 can be arguably credited for "pipelining done right", but not as a pioneer in that area. > and multiple function units. Multiple functional units existed before. The special thing about 6600 was that it had ALOT of them. Having a lot of non-pipelined functional units after 1-wide or even 2 or 3-wide front end sounds like architectural dead end. > He went on to > pioneer vector processing (long vectors, not the short-vector SIMD > stuff that infests CPU designs today). I am talking about 6600, the computer, not Seymour Cray, the person, or Cray-Thornton, the team. Cray, the person was innovative and influential. 6600, the computer was innovative and not influential in the long run. > He was always very > conservative in the fabrication technologies he adopted, but he was > brilliant at pushing them to their limits.